Ascension Papers: Children and loved ones

[bajillic]

thanks Zingdad for your response... dreams have always seem so confusing and mysterious to me.. I have lots of them but they have never actually played out in this life. What you said makes sense to me but not sure what to do with it.. I guess just store it and wait and see..

"Maybe what sits with you is your uncertainty about your husband and maybe you are being show another alternate time-line".

I feel more of a need and importance to be there for my kids due to there ages and my role as a mother - in respect to the Singularity event. I also know my husband will be OK without me if that was the case - well to some extent!! I don't know if he will go the direction and to the reality I choose, I do hope he also chooses this path. I hope raising my vibration will raise his along with the kids. Who knows maybe the kids are the ones who raise everyones vibrations?? My husband and I have both come together for a purpose and I trust it will be on going. Lots to think about but not worry about.

thanks again Zingdad!

[wolfke74]

I thought about it a lot and going down and explore my deeper fear. Just a few days ago I dreamt my husband and my daughter fell in an ice-cold river, surrounded by snow, and I could see them sinking in to the bottom of the river and I felt crying … but later in the dream I rescued them and they were alive… Now looking at this and have other dreams in mind, I think me greatest fear is to be alone, to be abandoned and nobody sees me or hears me and I am all alone in the dark , and nobody loves me. When I write this my tears are getting out. So the reason why I hold on so tight on my husband and daughter is that I don’t want to be alone. I had through my life many dreams about people who were abandoning me and I always woke up crying. The funny thing is that I haven’t been abandoned here in this life , or is the trauma caused by so close family (dad and brother) that this also can create this feeling? Or is it from previous lives?

[Ricky]

Is there something else BEHIND this fear? Does this fear mask another deeper fear?"

i think the deeper fear is general total loss of the relationship as i comfortably know it, my fear in respect of my loved ones is that they themselves may change so drastically that maybe i will not know them as i do in this life time, i will not recognize them as the people i loved??? the other fear is that i will never see them again ever ever ever!!!

It feels quite strange saying this, as this is fear coming from an un ascended person in thenow and not the ascended person as posed in the initial question by joy/divine. and i cant help feeling i may think differently when the time comes

sweet love to all

[mrsswhoo]

Hello,
Digging deeper inside of my thoughts I did see that I had fear.
My fear comes from thinking Im crazy and all this has no meaning at all to fear how my body will die, I can remember some of my passed life deaths and I refuse to experience that kind of pain and suffering again.I feel this means something to me cause i get real upset when i think about it.( In this lifetime i just want to leave the body) No pain.
Thanks,
Yvette

[j2luna]

Hello to all,

I have waited to post until I finished "The Ascension Papers". That task is complete so here goes. Thank you for inviting me to play and thank you Zingdad for sharing your channeled writings. They truly sang to me - can't wait for Chapter 10!

"I am willing to begin to realise my creator status.
I am willing to co-create my reality with other beings of unity-consciousness.
I am willing to join in the creation of the most joyful, loving outcome to the challenge of...

What to do about beloved ones who are not of ascension-consciousness due to their youth or for whatever other reasons."

Here I shall address my fears and any underlying fears.
I am the mother of three daughters and for as long as they have been with me I have included them in my search for truth. From declarations that "We're Pagans" to "Forget that, no we're not Pagan we are not bound to any religion. No more bounds of any kind!" Sometimes in the past I think I'v given them a bit of whiplash. However, I have always - no matter what I might have been into during my seeking process - expressed to them that they must find their own truth, their own path. When I imagine ascending my fear is leaving them without their mother (a common fear on this thread). I KNOW that their "higher selves" will be their when I choose to see them. I know I will be with them again as sure as I know we are the same, the all, the One. But their precious little three dimensional incarnations will experience so much sorrow at my leaving. Well maybe, perhaps a time line will open in that I was never their mother at all?! The fact is I DON'T KNOW what is going to happen. What I do know is that I refuse to exist in a reality that I do my children harm. From this perspective I see them full of pain, saddness, loss and feelings of despairing abandonment if I were to disappear. So of course this is an unacceptable scenario. Therefore, a different outcome must be created! It was no accident that they are my children. I knew while carrying my first born I would have two other daughters. I have known this would be my last incarnation here. I am tired of this game and am ready to play another. My girls must then have known this before they came here. We collectively created this scenario for us to create in together. I guess then my fear is that I DON'T KNOW how it all plays out or do I? I am uncertain and that is a gift that I can embrace or let it incapacitate me. I chose to embrace it. I chose to examine it! I chose to co-create a situation in which my children and I ascend in unison or in whatever manner creates no loss for them. If I could just remember what we decided to do before incarnating here! It is so frustrating! It makes me cry. The creation/discovery process can be a painful one. I no longer wish it to be so. There is so much I haven't figured out how to do yet and fear is just part of it. It is like I am a caged tiger pacing up and down the bars. Anyway, I'll stop ranting for now. Thank you all.
Love -Jen-

[Zingdad]

Hi to Jen and Dann

I'd like to wish you both a very warm welcome to BoL. It's lovely to have you here and awesome to have you along for this "reality creation game".

And speaking of which - I haven't posted here for a while maybe some of you have wondered what's been going on? Well, I have really just needed to take a short break. It seems it works this way for me - that there are times when Ii need to just "be still" a while. But I feel t is time to move on to the next step. So here is J-D:

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Joy-Divine: Thank you. Yes it is time for the next step. Now that you have looked at your fears and what might lie behind them they no longer have any power over you. Unexamined fears lurk in the recesses of the sub-conscious and really mess with your ability to create. If you have an unexamined fear and you then try to create a path forward you will find yourself constantly hampered at every turn with feelings of "I can't do that". In one way or another the unexamined fear will pull you off course until you have properly looked at it. And here is the interesting bit: You don't actually have to DO anything with that fear at this point. You only really have to SEE it. Make sure the fear is looked at... examined... make sure you are looking at the actual fear itself and not just a mask for a deeper fear. Express this fear in writing or tell it to someone. And that is all you need to do for now. Now it has no further ability to contaminate your creation. And you'll see later how it is put to use. So we'll park the "fear" issue for now and move on to the next step.

This step is the first part of framing your intention. It requires of you to enact an extremely powerful tool: your imagination. In the world you live in the imagination is often looked down upon. You might sometimes dismiss something as "just your imagination". And our dear Zingdad, when he first began to have these conversations with his spirit family used to worry that this was all "just his imagination". Well, friends, let me tell you that there is no "just" about your imagination at all! It is an incredibly powerful tool. Your whole world exists in our collective imaginations!

But there will be more on the subject of imagination and visualisation later in The Ascension Papers. For now I would like to bring you to the next step. I would like to ask you to use your imagination and see yourself in the position of each of the ones you are concerned about. Sit with your eyes closed and BE that other person as much as you can. Spend a little time in your imagination living yourself into their life. Imagine how it feels to be them going through their day. Now imagine the Singularity Event arrives. You (as your beloved other) are (possibly) lying in your bed when you feel this amazing, wonderful feeling in your body. You probably don't know what it is but it feels warm, happy and comfortable. You close your eyes to just feel it and it washes over you. You feel quite blissed out and then there is a light behind your eyes! It is just beautiful and you are drawn in...

And now here is my question to you: What do YOU think your beloved other will need in that moment? What would you want for them to have IN THAT MOMENT such that they will be okay? Remember the singularity event will come to all. What do YOU feel your beloved other needs to be okay with it?

I look forward to your thoughts. And do not fear to just express yourself. We are just sharing and discussing.

With love,
Joy-Divine

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Thanks J-D! Nothing much to add to that. I too look forward to hearing everyone's responses...

[GTTOWNSEND]

As I lay there , looking through my sweet little Ada Mae's eyes , I feel totally at peace , very happy and calm , and I look to make sure my Mom and Dad are here , with me , that I will not lose them , that in fact the word "lose" has lost it's meaning , it's bite. I Am. All is well.

This is how I would wish to envision my daughter's interpretation of the Singularity Event. What I assume , or feel , she will need to be o.k. with it. What I wish for her to experience.

What I need to happen for her for ME to be o.k. with it. Or , that's what I need MY interpretation of Her experience of the event to be.

Yes.

Thanks for listening.

[j2luna]

Hello All,

There they are! In the treehouse creating another one of their magic worlds. I imagine myself as them. We are united in mind and sisterly love while playing our game. One of us comments on how nice it is outside today. We begin to feel very happy and content. One of us comments on this as well but it is more of a telepathic communication and as real as any spoken word. We do not find this strange. We all begin to take in this experience and then we notice the light growing behind our eyes. We telepathically and excitedly proclaim that this is that universe we were going to go visit in our treehouse spaceship. So we follow the light. To our surprise Mom is there...

I cannot imagine an experience like that happening without me. It is not that I feel I NEED to be there. I just do not wish for them to think they must turn back for me or their Dad. If that is possible. And really this scenario brings little apprehension. It is the "me going before them" that is unsettling. I am beginning to realize that that is not going to happen. After all, there I was looking for that universe with them.

They may need to understand what is going on. Like a pre-orientation before this happens. Really though I feel all our needs will be met and all our questions answered so they/we will need nothing. All our loved ones will be there and have already gone through the process because there is no time limiting our perception. All will be love and infinite possibility.

Thanks -Jen-

[Greg Daugherty]

"...when you feel this amazing, wonderful feeling in your body. You probably don't know what it is but it feels warm, happy and comfortable. You close your eyes to just feel it and it washes over you. You feel quite blissed out and then there is a light behind your eyes! It is just beautiful and you are drawn in..."

Hmmm....what would ANYONE need when they find themselves warm, happy and comfortable? The only need I can think of for someone in that situation would be to know the bigger picture - having a reason for the event/feelings so they can appreciate it more fully. And, I'd say that is because that is my main endeavor: to have a big enough picture of reality to find the most appreciation and gratitude for it.

[wolfke74]

I imagned Ascension through my daugthers eyes Sarah, and feel that everything is going to be alright. There is no doubt in her/my mind that we all be together, mom and dad , to experience this beautifull Ascension, together as ONE.