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Re: Ascension Papers: Children and loved ones

Postby Zingdad on Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:45 pm

multi wrote:I am not sure what you are asking me to do?


Okay. No problem. If you go to the first page of this thread you'll see a channelled bit of conversation with J-D. There he sets out what this thread is about. It is PARTLY about finding a solution to this challenge but also partly an exercise in "reality creation". He makes the request that those that wish to partake in this thread please indicate it by declaring their intent. He even gives you the shared statement of intent. (If this is not done then people end up trying to co-create without being on the same page - so to speak). So you are invited to do just that. Which every ohter person here has done.

That is the first step. After that we'll get the next step. That's the game you are invited to play on this thread.

OF COURSE you are welcome to discuss anything else you like but in the interests of doing this thing properly I am not going to permit this thread to be pulled off purpose. If you want to talk about this issue without directly partaking in it then you are MOST welcome to do so... simply create anther thread for that. If on the other hand you DO want to play this game. Then simply play it as requested.

multi wrote:II guess I am not really one to conform too well with group rules and regulations

I didn't realise there would be any


I'm afraid there are ALWAYS rules. Try play a game of poker with no rules. Try drive on the roads with no rules. Try have a relationship with no rules.

Recipe for disaster.

All internet forums have rules

THIS thread is a game - albeit a serious one - and it has rules.

That, I'm afraid is how it is.

Now, if you'd like I can move all this peripheral discussion to it's own thread and it can carry on there. Or I can delete it. Which would you prefer?

Unfortunately I am not going to just leave it here in this thread.
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Children and loved ones: Peripheral discussion

Postby bajillic on Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:50 pm

delete! ;)
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Re: Ascension Papers: Children and loved ones

Postby GTTOWNSEND on Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:51 pm

Multi asks - "Do you understand what a paradox is?
or isn't "

Of course - a paradox is 2 dox's , (or not)! :lol:
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Re: Ascension Papers: Children and loved ones

Postby Zingdad on Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:55 pm

okay - multi seems to have left us.

He said

"anyway.. thanks again for your writings
but I will leave you to it.
I have too many forums that I post on..
I really didn't need another anyway.

bye."

So I am going to lock this thread and clean it up.

I am sorry for the misunderstanding with multi. Sadly not everyone will play every game it seems. Maybe there is something instructive in that.
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Re: Children and loved ones: Peripheral discussion

Postby Zingdad on Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:19 pm

... and clean-up is complete in aisle 9.

:lol:

... and so this thread is unlocked and the thread it came from is back in business.

I wanted to keep this "peripheral" stuff intact. I think multi has potentially made some interesting points. Just not at the right time and place. But the record of what went down is here and we can refer to it when appropriate. Or we can make more discussion threads if that seems more appropriate.
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Re: Children and loved ones: Peripheral discussion

Postby Will on Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:40 pm

...should you have said...

...aisle 8... ?
...although no trees were harmed during the creation of this message...
... a significant number of electrons were greatly inconvenienced...
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Re: Children and loved ones: Peripheral discussion

Postby multi on Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:22 pm

oh very well.... I will go,you seem sota pleased with yourself.

but
you still didn't explain why or how I was being disrespectful



Rules should be the things we rally against ..not try to create more of them.

It seems you are quite good at getting rid of anyone that is already consciously aware of creating their own reality..

I guess you only want people you can tell stuff to


A simple PM would of saved you these additional posts you have to 'clean'
(plz don't bother now , I will not be logging in again)
perhaps you enjoy being contrary and condescending to random individuals for no particular reason.
good work !

It's a pity because I did enjoy the information..

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Re: Children and loved ones: Peripheral discussion

Postby bajillic on Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:49 pm

wow.... Multi your comments are not coming across very peaceful here. Your energy certainly is not an energy that seems to vibrate well with Zingdad and JD or any of us here.
Zingdad never implied you were being disrespectful, you created that in your own reality. If you choose to be here please change your energy but my guess is you will not.

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Re: Children and loved ones: Peripheral discussion

Postby GTTOWNSEND on Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:19 pm

Maybe we have co-created a useful exercise in discernment?

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Re: Children and loved ones: Peripheral discussion

Postby Zingdad on Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:04 pm

yeah.

sad.

You know I have had to face right from the beginning that the stuff I am writing - The Ascension Papers - would not be right for many people. In fact most of the people I am surrounded with in "real life" would not be interested in it. So I had to just get over needing other people to like it or to agree. What I really didn't expect was to have someone resonate with the material and then so radically dis-resonate with any discussion or processes that might come out of that. I guess that's how it goes. Not all things are for all people. I truly hope multi finds his "fit" somewhere.

Funny thing is I actually quite liked a lot of what multi was saying. And as quite a lot of my life has been characterised by me kicking against rules I also feel that with him. But a far harder lesson for me has been about me having the backbone to draw my boundaries. There HAVE to be limits to where one is prepared to go. And if someone can't live with my boundaries then I guess we simply cannot play together. This doesn't make them "wrong". It just makes us incompatible play-mates.

And no - for me it is not about an arbitrary desire to eliminate all rules. No rules equals anarchy. I cannot say I ever aspired to that. It is simply about creating a minimum set of rules that are clear, elegant, efficient at supporting your intended path. No rules means there isn't even a path!

And the final issue is the fact that I didn't choose to PM Multi and instead chose to discuss it in the open. This is becasue I prefer transparency and openness where possible. Then everyone knows what is going on. And everyone can understand the process. I also didn't choose to delete anything and didn't even delete his posts where he makes some uncomfortable accusations. Those can stand for anyone to read and decide for themselves. So it all remains. And somewhere in all of this is something to learn.

When we can clearly see the path that lies behind us then we can learn from it. It is when we hide the path behind us from ourselves then we are doomed to tread it again.
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