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  • #13400
    jldy
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    Repitition drives home the facts as seen by those who believe what they wish to. But is it necessary to repeat that which is already believed? Does repitition prove anything or make it easier; are we any smarter for it? I think not, but it does drive home that which is being said so that some preparation is in the works!
    But those who believe and are asending need not worry for themselves; this gives them the ability to help those in delema,lost in fear at what they think will happen. It is already happening; yes we are well into the changes coming and blessed are those prepared and trying to help those who are not. It is not as some may think; you know mahem and death; one day will be the same as the rest and we will move on each in his own manner.
    Revelation is strength more so then the way things have been because revelation will be confermation for those in search of the truth.
    No matter what you tell us only the final steps of change will answer our questions! We look forward to these changes however they may happen as this is our right.
    I thankyou for your help and guidance!

    #13401
    denise
    Member

    David and Joanie,

    Please keep writing. I like to read your posts (even on my smart phone, even when I cannot reply because my password needs a reset.) Sometimes it seems like you are playing games with us, but I enjoy the metaphor. The last post sounds very similar to the Law of Attraction. I would like to create a picture of my life that I love. As you know I am not there yet.

    One of the things I realized this weekend is that I am not creating my picture yet. First I need to go to work, or cook dinner, or feed the dogs, etc. So many “have to’s” then I am stressed out trying to do too many things that I dont want to and I reward myself using food or wine or some stupid video games or something just to feel a little stress relief. I am a little bit afraid to start painting that picture because I am not sure what I want it to look like. Should I start with my favorite color purple? But most of the sky is blue, and the grass is green. So I draw those first and never have time to draw my sweet beautiful lilacs… And also, what happens if I draw the picture and then it turns out I don’t like it after all?

    The other thing that I realized is that I am always doing things I HAVE to do, sometimes things I WANT to do, but most often I find myself doing things that OTHER people want me to do. I keep finding myself doing things I don’t really want to do in order to please (or not disappoint) others. You keep telling me we all choose for ourselves. But I have a family to take care of, and children who are not old enough to do all their choosing. (How do I teach them how to choose the right things?) Its a tough balance. I would like to have more time to do what I want to do. How can I free up more time for ME? And what wonderful things will I do when I have the time???

    Funny it’s not just my family. I also feel obligated to please other people, some I dont really care about, doing things I don’t want, things that don’t make me happy, and I dont know how to stop. Is that ego? Low self confidence? Training? Why can’t I just say no? Go away, leave me alone? Because positive attention makes me feel like I am OK. So I am like a trained seal, I do what they want and they throw me a fish and I really dont ever have a chance to draw my picture!

    Now you say the time is coming when we need to choose. So should I even bother? Really if time’s almost up, is it too late to pick up the canvas???

    OK. Sounding pretty frustrated arent I? Sorry. I have many good things in my life too, really. I feel so much happier when I am grateful for all my blessings. So now we focus on the good things.

    Thank you for listening. Thank you for Joanie. Thank you for the words you send that help me to see the light, and thank you for your help and guidance and love. (And for nice soft feather pillows when I am feeling tired.) Good night.

    Denise

    #13404
    Joanie
    Member

    @John:

    The repetition is for those who are asleep. The “sleepers” are listening. They hear. They listen. We drive home facts — Truths — so they wake up if they choose to do so. The repetition is repetitive (laughter), so we do it enough to wake up the slumbering ones. The sleepers go to bed, wake up, drive somewhere, return, sleep, and do it again each day. Repetition, right? We use words to drive points down throats — or do we? Are we ramming information? We think not. Instead, we gallop along, writing through her (Joanie), so you, they, all the world can see if messages, clear or ambiguous, make you think to change for the better.

    You like this. Let’s go on. The ones ascending help others if they have helped themselves already. (smiles) If one is messed and confused, they might rethink helping. It is time for those who are in turmoil to look at themselves. Time to brush up on Life and its message that we live, die, eat in bodies, yet our souls live eternally, wanting more, more, more.

    You wish help to those suffering. We say, “You are here to help when your soul is washed, cleansed, purified. Help yourself. Then, if there’s room in the schedule, help others.

    You are clear that death and mayhem may come to be. Death is life’s reward for living — truly living. When death occurs, the soul has lived fully. It has completed tasks — monumental ones — and has decided to leave for new adventures. If folks choose mayhem, they will experience hellish events. We suggest peace and quiet…

    Revelation. The Book? Revelation. The concept? We ask for more with respect to your word.

    Yes, the final act of the Play will show each one the day comes to a close and new chapters begin. You see, we look toward the sun. The sun shines and this will show that the day comes. LIght comes through as sun that day of glory.

    Remember to go to bed because the day will bring such excitement you’ll tucker out, John! (laughter)

    Your words of thanks are warm. We welcome you and love you.

    Love, David and The Divine Others

    #13405
    Joanie
    Member

    @Denise:

    Games. Games. We love games! This is what we do: We sit, figure how to move your minds with words, treat her (Joanie), as she is a linguist, and add more as time moves towards a close. Games. We are not sure if the games we play hurt or amuse you. Are you confused? Do you need comfort? We say you “get” us. (smiles) We amuse you because you are a language/writing buff and you enjoy how we move speech, take turns with soliloquy, and rhyme if there’s a chance.

    The post we put through about rewards and food — well — we found that more about your liking drawing pictures. The common theme is that food represents what folks desire if they are sad, concerned, upset. The picture they drew: Food is here to save me. The drawing that you mentioned is also a vision: I put forth “this” because I want good feelings to save me. See? Both relate to drawing pictures to soothe. Food soothes hearts. Lilacs soothe hearts. You choose…

    Now, you have to create. (laughter) Have to fix yourself. (laughter) Have to. Have. To. These two words stink. Absolutely smell to Heaven. (We smell it.) (laughter) We suggest eliminating this phrase because you create “have to” scenarios. Law. Law of. Law of Attraction. (We’re playing Charades.) (smiles) The Law of Attraction is part of the universe. We understand the difficulty managing many things each day. Yes, we do. So, eliminate these words and see if more room comes in the day. Just see, OK?

    Stress. We hear you take things to alleviate it. So. Do you want cake, wine, beer, or would you consider marbles, toys, games — activities that are fun? What about smoke? Smoke? This is a hobby. (smiles) Or would you want to try journaling? How about craps? That game is legal. (smiles) Or, do you want to rest, watch TV, sit warm and cozy with tea? We see you know what is healthy. We’ll leave you here with this.

    Fear and painting don’t mix. What do you fear? Are you worried the life that you paint/create will fall apart? “How could you do that?” she (mother) scolded. (Do we have to point for the correct answer?) The mother who scolds daughter is to be told to leave. Just leave. Now, she’s left. Can we continue painting? OK. Lilacs are purple. The sky is blue. Try it. It’s a beginning. Work with ease, care, patience. “Don’t let paint drip.” (Oh! Mom’s back. Tell her to leave!)

    If the painting is not to your liking, rewrite, rewrite, rewrite. You can rewrite.

    People pleasing. You please because you feel that if you do this, they will like you. If you do this, they take your idea of fun, happiness away. When you get a grip, you see you have to take yourself in for rest, shelter, nurturing before others are cared for. If you want help, ask them. They are able, too. There are those who wait till you service them. They know you will, so they do not help themselves. This is true. Many people do this. So, you are able to stop if you wish, Denise. Choice is a friend of yours and you can see it loves dangling around you.

    You bring up a point that is critical. All ears at attention? “If I don’t bother to change the landscape today, will it matter because the Ascension is soon?” We say,

    The Ascension is for those who wish Light. All go. If you clear karma, you go. If you don’t, you go. However, the ones who are remaining with issues continue afterwards to deal with issues that were unresolved. Those who cleared up issues before the Ascension have opportunities and experiences that further the others — they surpass others as their heights, or levels of consciousness are broader.

    We say,

    Have you taken opportunities to clear messes up? Did you work on frailties, limitations, obstacles? Who did you offend, hurt? Was anyone taken by surprise? What can be worked through so when you return to Paradise, you meet them and say, ‘We’re OK.’ ?

    I believe the question is perfect. Thank you, Denise. People do not realize they can work now to resolve issues so when time is still they can shoot high versus low in terms of levels of consciousness.

    We see confusion. Are you disappointed? Go. Ask us. We say, “Please ask. You are very bold, daring, and your words tell us you mean that all is happening well into the night for you. You can see we enjoy your verbiage, Denise.” OK. We’ll stop. Were we too personal? (smiles and hugs)

    You are blessed.

    Love, David, the Divine Others, Joanie, the scribe, Cathy, the guide; Angels: Michael, Gabriel, Uriel, Samuel, Raphael. More wish to say their peace, but they hunger for more at other sites. (laughter)

    #13406
    jldy
    Member

    Hi Denise. I hope you dont mind me saying something to you . Your life is a continuos story that never stops. You dont go out to shop because you might have a bad day. Life wether you are in 3D time or not is a progression of actions of happenings and these are all predicated on your decision on what to do! So your decision’s are never wrong; their just a prelude to an action. You must remember that your life consist of more then what goe’s on here or what go’es on in your heart ;Life is a series of interactions and you place yourself within that story as you see fit. You cannot go wrong if your hurting no one….at least thats how I feel. Life will be what it is and waiting for something to happen is non-involvement and you acomplish nothing. Carry on your life as you see fit;that suites you;that gives you a feeling of acomplishment and what will be will be! Be Kind to Yourself!! 😉

    #13407
    Joanie
    Member

    David’s Guidance – 10/5/11: “Part The Water, Raise The Flag”

    The first thing we wish to say is, “Go ahead. Make fun. OK. Done?” Now, are you ready to hear what They say? We have been mocked, ridiculed, laughed at. We hear stories of those who want us on a plate, served up hot, toasty with the trimmings. Why? Because they don’t like what we say. No. They don’t.

    Why are you here? Do you enjoy her writing words that are “cosmic,” as Joanie calls them? Do you enjoy tasting bits of fruit we offer from other realms? How do you know what we say is real? Well, I bet you’d have a tough time proving it now, wouldn’t you?

    We see some like our style. Others enjoy disses to others we make only if we believe they can take our (loving) sarcasm, quips, jibes or ridicules.

    How are you? Do you feel good about the teaching of Life, Love? Do you enjoy seeing Truth on a screen? How does it make you feel?

    We ask becuase our readers ask her (Joanie) questions and she asks them to post, yet the readers sit back. We wonder why. Why is it difficult to post? Let’s hear from someone. Anyone.

    Silence. Thud. (That was the shoe dropping.) OK. We’ll hope some respond so we can understand how so many read, yet so few post.

    Are you here for the bell to ring so you can go home? OK. Class dismisssed. No. You may not come back without a note that explains who is demanding a makeover.

    The makeover. The makeover is the reconfiguration of your spirit from A to B. We encourage you to raise the flag at A and walk with your arms raised to B. How have you walked? Well? Sturdily? With cane? Walker? Hopped? Skipped? We see you are lost. Out: Metaphor. In: Direct Confrontation. (laughter)

    We hope you follow this as it is important. When you ascend, you choose many opportunities since you are multidimensional. You have learned much in Life and take knowledge to the level of Joy, Love, Peace, Happiness — all the time seeking more. If lessons are not learned before Ascension, they come with you. They play out in new ways for growth and learning possibilities.

    You know the friend you hate and wish were alive for only a few minutes longer? Well, forgive (in order to) leave the drama and cut the tie of banal existence. You see, we need you to see that our relationships are to be reconciled or they will fruitlessly fester in more lives — in more experiences with others, or with them, depending on how karma has been worked through.

    Karma. A term we have not yet mentioned in detail up till now. It is a term we use to explain when energy between souls is taught and experiences are learned or unfortunately not learned. Do you know this term? We know you have heard it, yet you may be unfamiliar with it.

    The people involved in drama agree before life incarnation to play roles. If the drama is effortless and the “players” succeed in fulfilling their soul’s growth wish(es), karma is not to continue through another life experience. If a player is unfortunate to leave matters askew, the player takes lessons unlearned and gets to work through them in more ways in future life experiences.

    OK. The Ascension. We heard a friend ask, “If I’m coming Home to Paradise, why bother?” Ah! This is our response: If you come Home, you will see friends who are at the level of awareness you are at. The ones who are not at this “mindset,” or level of consciousness will have opportunities in other levels that suit them so they may procede in order to get to the level you are at. One does not see all friends, family, old, long lost ones because they ascended. The Ascension brings those to the place they are supposed to be at.

    Let’s see. Does anyone wonder if they will see a friend or loved one if they choose Light? I’m sure many do. Do you believe all friends, etc. will be at the level of consciousness you are at? We are telling you: Try to work through issues with your loved ones — anyone you wish to find peace with. Tell them, “I’m sorry.” Talk about how it could be better, changed, closed, opened. Even if the outcome means tears, the work through is the goal.

    Now you ask, “How do I know if the karma is worked through? Who will tell me?” We answer, “You will see that those who are here to watch your growth also wish you Love. We help you by giving you twinges of guilt, doubt about whether something is resolved. Guides advise by helping you feel whether work is necessary. If you doubt, you are correct that business remains unfinished. Ask what is to be done. Go to the place that fields questions — a heart center or your mind if it thinks clearly. If you can help the person who wishes closure, this also is beneficial.

    Do you see? This is the part of the play we like. We hope this helps you see that messages as this come because we love you and wish you Love, Peace, Happiness, always.

    Go find one who has questionable contents in the drama. See whether all’s well. See if you can figure if it’s done — all done, or whether more is to be worked out.

    You are bright. Take chances. Figure whether the impeccable ending took place — the final act of the drama was worked out. If it wasn’t impeccable = notworked out.

    “Hi! Remember when we took advantage and now we’re not happy? Well, how do you feel?” Or, “Remember when I said this? Do you think it was OK?” Try, “Hey! What’s up? Can you take a few minutes to talk about something I’ve been thinking about? I dare you (smile).”

    The way we see it: You are brave to work through issues. Please call yourself brave.

    OK. Now we’re done. Do you have feelings about this? Is this work good? How can we talk about things better? All ideas welcome. (smiles)

    Love, David, the host; Michael, Auriel, Gabriel, Raphael, Uriel; a host of members of Divinity: Mother Mary, Jesus, Mary Magdala; and more who want privacy as they sit behind veils, waiting to be called forth to help you find your way Home

    #13408
    jldy
    Member

    You know I feel so bad that you feel so ignored or should I say unappreciated. It brings tears to my eye’s and makes my feet sore. 😉 But the fact is you are listened to and though I cannot speak for others I take you seriously. Being a human is like trying to swim with your hands tied so you must understand our lack of foresight.
    Personaly I’ve been waiting to get out of this body but not having control over that I’m still here. My point is I have to ,no I need to hear what being’s such as yourself have to say so I alway’s hope it will be intelligent as being human seems to mean …..Lack of Understanding…..Lost in the Woods….A body with no brain…and so on and so on. I hope am not being duped as I have only your words to go by and my belief in what is to come; I just wish it would get started as I am getting worn out by pain. So next time you respond to some of these apparent lost questions from people desperate to go home realize they look to you in order to understand. God Bless You!

    #13410
    Joanie
    Member

    @John:

    Dear, dear one: We love you and say, “Thank you for your words. We appreciate them.”

    When folks do not respond, we know they learn. They learn. It is fine. If they respond, OK. This, too, is OK. So, be the person who is apt to answer. You are one who is able to put words out to others without judging words after they are on the screen. Some do this. They see what came through their eyes, ears to paper and turn off the computer.

    It’s OK. All is good.

    Now, you hurt. We see hurt. Bodily pain. Why is there pain? Please tell us. We wish to address issues that are aching.

    The writer is sure you have lessons locked up in your body. She is able to address issues in healings. Please call her, John. She can make you aware of the source of pain in the area(s) you would like to discuss.

    The time stops and you will be free of pain. It will be soon. Please rest so you can jive dance when we see you.

    Love, The Ones Who Take You To Places That Are Filled With Love, Laughter, Promise Of More Than You Could Dream Of:
    David, The Mary Magdalena, Jesus, Mother Mary, Archangels Michael, Uriel, Raphael, Gabriel; Abe and Stefani, plus the other angels who would like to meet you , but they
    are shy (laughter and smiles)

    #13411
    denise
    Member

    David,

    I thought there are only three of us reading…you mean there’s more? Maybe it’s only us. No? There are others who don’t want to post? I think I understand why.

    First you have to register. Give them your email address (what about spam…?) Pick screen name. (Hmmm…what should I call myself?) Then they check to be sure it’s a unique name (one of a kind? of course I am!) And then the dreaded password. What will I remember? It requires numbers and letters in BoTh CAPITAL and also lower case letters aLL m1xEd uP! (Shit how will I remember that? Usually I dont. mine’s been reset 3 times.) When you sign on with your password it takes you to a blank screen, where you have to click to go to the index page and then forums and find David’s guidance. It’s under HEALTH. (Health?? Except for the one FAT post, I have absolutely NO idea why!)

    Me? I like to click the link on Joanie’s (or Mel’s) emails. Especally if I’m on my smart phone. It takes me right to the page. I read all the new posts and hit “post reply.” THAT”S where they ask me for my password, and IF I remember it AND put it in correctly, which honestly isnt often, OOPS! Now I have to go back to the blank page at the beginning, back to the index and to the Davids guidance and click page 16 where we are now. Just to reply.

    OK? So now you know why its a little harder than you think to post. Easy for you to say…All YOU have to do is talk to Joanie and SHE does all the work!

    When I read your posts I sometimes feel completely overwhelmed. I need to read through it a few times, digest it, then wait til I am in the right frame of mind to answer. Sometimes you hit a nerve. You say I am sad. You say I am fat and need to stop eating. You say I need to TALK to people I am fighting with??? Make amends. UGH I dont like that, it’s too hard! Maybe I’m not speaking to certain people for really good reasons. (ok so maybe I should and I could but I’m scared to pick up the phone.) You say you want me to draw a picture of my life. I’m too scared. What if I quit my job and start designing greeting cards, what if I can’t pay my mortgage? You say the end is near, we are all going to go through some kind of craziness that makes us nervous about our future and our worthiness and our families and friends and oh nooooo what should we do about it?

    When I finally hit “post reply” and start writing, I get so nervous. What should I say? How should I say it? I dont want to piss off the angels in heaven, especially not Mary Mother of God whose got my highest respect and devotion?? Jesus who died for my sins wants to hear me complain??? I think not. Nobody wants to hear about my personal problems. I am just learning, what if I sound stupid and uneducated? OK I am educated but not ENLIGHTENED! Me and my petty boring life of work and kids and dogs and food. So there it is…

    Here’s the worst part, when I write too long I can’t see the bottom of the box where I am typing so I can’t even edit it!

    So stop writing you say? OK I will do you the favor. Just thought I would tell you my truth from a mere mortal perspective. But someday if you want to talk to me direct I will try to hear you!

    All my love and respect and if you need any more help understanding I will be happy to help! Keep on writing Joanie!

    Love
    Denise

    #13412
    Joanie
    Member

    @Denise:

    You are very, very, very funny! We love your style of writing. I am sure you love the way you express yourself, or you would not be posting this.

    We love you. Do not believe that words “piss off” the ones who sit, watch, love all the Earth folks. Please know we love, respect, cherish each of you. When you say, “I love to write,” you mean it. Keep this going, as you have a gift.

    Now, we say you are right about the convoluted way you enter the site to see us. It is one door after another. If the people subscribe (to the forum), they get the data at once.
    No need to plod through till we’re in your faces.

    Now, the signing in is a problem if you’ve forgotten the password or username. Double click to get it up. It comes up. If not, type in, if you must. We wait for you to see us, so be patient and type till it’s all on the screen.

    Replying. The ones who reply are able to get to where they find the box is empty and ready for words to come in it. If one has difficulty, type an email to an administrator. Zingdad put Joanie here, so he can be contacted. OK?

    You are a barrel…of fun! No, laughs! We believe you can take yourself too much down by saying such bad things about yourself. Why are you feeling boring? Petty? Is this a life worth living? We believe you enjoy it. So, what is wrong? Are you here to see more? OK, then do that. But if you want this and complain, then stop. (smiles) We believe the life you live is wonderful. Do you? What is happening inside? Sad? OK. What is “more” to you? What makes you thrilled by the idea of it? That is what you think about. If you can make it happen, do it. We watch you make decisions. We see how you do it well. OK. Boring? No. Enlightened? Do you believe you are learning from this? If so, this is enlightenment at its best. (smiles)

    See the one writing. She sits. Writes. It is good to sit and write. Do you like this? If so, join a group of writers. Discuss ideas and make points that others will learn from. OK. Do you thnk she wishes to write books about philosophy or grammar? No. So, she is here to write only this. OK. Do you want more? Then, look outside a writers’ club to see what else you could do.

    Editing. We say, “Scroll down. If it does not, try again. Something is wrong because it is set for you to scroll down to the end fo the box.”

    I love the Truth. The Truth. Yes. Speak truthfully, “mere mortal.”

    We love you.

    David, The (Divine) Ones: Mary Magdalena, Jesus, Mary, the Mother; Angels: Michael, Auriel, Samuel, Gabriel, Raphael, Uriel, and those who sit back, watch The Event and take you forward to new destinations while you rejoice, cry, hail, “Love exalts! I am free!”

    #13413
    denise
    Member

    Dear David,

    I was not complaining, just trying to speak for all thouse countless readers (are you SURE they are out there???) who might read our posts and the difficulties they may have encountered trying to post a reply. Come on PEOPLE…it’s really NOT THAT HARD! I would love to hear what others have to say or ask, and can’t wait to read David’s replies!

    What a magnificent honor it is to be able to receive the personal guidance, love and acceptance of heaven that is offered up here for all! Everybody should be so lucky!

    OK I have a question. Many many years ago, my friends and I picked up a Ouija board, and “the devil” came in and told one of the guys he was going to die first. A couple years later the 19 year old contracted cancer and died! I have never forgotten that and also have never again used a ouija board. My friend is having a seance and I am thinking of attending but I find it a little spooky, should I go?

    Over the years my Roman catholic upbringing has been somewhat replaced by some new philosophies which I have compiled from various sources. (is that bad? I have created my own sense of religion…) One of them is that I no longer believe there is a devil. No Satan. People are all from God, then they are all of the spirit, right? We have our bad sides but I truly believe that everything bad that ever happened was just somebody’s warped sense of good. Is Satan a symbol for man’s bad choices?

    Do you have anything to tell us about “Satan” or “Evil” or “Hell?” I know it’s in the bible but that was written and translated by man to serve their own purposes. Many enlightened people talk about “dark” spirits, how can they be dark if they come from God? You love us all unconditionally. Or should I be watching my back?

    Thank you for your guidance, I have always wondered such things. I wish more people would sign up and ask questions too, until Joanie wears out her keyboard from typing!

    Love and gratitude
    Denise

    #13415
    Joanie
    Member

    David’s Guidance – 10/10/11: “The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face”

    Roberta Flack. She wrote this. We love her. Yes. She is one to move us. Now, we wonder why you wrote to us asking,

    Dear Divine Ones,

    What are you saying? Why are you quoting Roberta Flack?! You are nuts! Bonkers. Go give up the act. Take ’em offstage.

    The reason why we pass the hat singing this is that we love the way you see each other. We say, “You look at one another lovingly — just lovingly. We like your glances. They are beautiful.”

    “OK. What are you getting at?”

    We love the way you see each other through your soul windows (eyes). You glance, glimmer-look. You search for Love in the other. How does it feel? Does it feel good?

    We approve. Keep doing it. Keep searching for Love. It is part of the journey.

    “What is this? Look for Love? Are you saying we are to look outside the box, the one we’re in and search until there’s more?”

    We say you can find Love more than once. We say you can skip till you drop. You can eat till you’re full. You can hand the baton to the next till everyone’s had a turn.

    We believe Love is infinite. It is “share-able.” It is more than one. More than two. It is about infinite Love. Infinite.

    “What are you saying?”

    We say polyamory is about to come through gates and you will love many, many souls. There will be souls you love, while others love you. You’ll find plenty of gents with
    gents — men with men, women and women — all loving. It is good to know restrictions bar. They bar.

    We talk of Love. We say one needs to rest, look around to see who loves and who restricts. We need to see that you are loving, not hurting, nor hiding. So, we say you can have one, two — more Love when you cross to here where we reside.

    It is common in “multidimensional land,” as Joanie calls it (smile from Joanie), to love many. Our belief is we cross over, break through barriers till walls come down. We wake up, learn Love is “share-able,” and walk with many. If one wishes quiet solitude, this is OK. We talk of those who love more than one.

    Polyamory is for those who love, treat more than one to infinite heart Love, turning around, around to get a full experience of Love and all pleasure that surrounds this concept.

    If you like Love, this is good, beautiful. For a person who listens, learns, they will know this is good and right, just, sound.

    “How do I do this? I’m married. Just married. Plain ol’ married. Good thing I’m not here with the missus or mister reading this!”

    We say this is for those who love and treat others equally. We say you can be loving and love with intentions of only sharing Love if you are with another. No ideas come through of leaving one you kept promises to. Now thoughts of infidelity or heart breaking.

    We talk of Love — of expanding hearts so Love is shared. Do you feel warm? Wet? What? Is this horny talk distasteful? We see horny is not in this. That is polysexuality you refer to. Polysexuality is about sexual polygamy. Sexual treats over many periods of time with more than one person. We believe polysexuality is to be frowned upon. It is a way of distancing so it can be pleasure where Love is without — without… Polyamorous relations involve hearts. This is beautiful. Treats with amore is a beaut!

    Can we say you are confused? Are we hyping you to sex up many folks today? No! We believe Love is a package involving heart, soul, penis, vagina, whatever body part is involved in Love. If body parts are not involved, one can still love. Yes! Still love.

    We want those confused to step forward.

    “Do you know why I do this? Why I go from one to another?” We say, “You find the time to treat, yet you don’t love the one there. You find time, yet you could love when you treat. Love is higher. Higher. Treating — from one to another — is like throwing shots at a table with cameras, yet the flash doesn’t go off. Love is the flash bulb we wish you had turned on.”

    “OK. Then how do I love if I am married?” “I’m in a relationship?” “Engaged.” “How do I do this?” “Are you saying break up?” “Did you tell me to screw her and then her and then her and…?” “Are you suggesting I leave one, love one, leave one, love…?”

    OK. Stop. All of you! We see this is new. Polyamory. Look up the definition. Look up “polysexuality.” Both are there to define. We see Love. We love Love. Therefore, high vibration is the way. High vibration is the way. Repeat: “High vibration is the way.” Have you got that? Now, go find one who gets the terminology. See if they get it. Now, you found one who understands. She/he sits, looks, loves. When do you say, “Hey! Love me? I say, ‘Love you.’ ” (smile)

    The interchange between two who love is important. We feel this necessary. Love is shined all over Creation. Two, or more shining Love on one another is important, too, because Love raises consciousness. It moves souls to Freedom. Genuine Freedom. Limits placed on Love restrict one from Truth. Limits placed on Love take away one’s right to be free and love who they wish to love.

    How are we saying this? Why? Because there are souls who limit Love. They limit loving. Love and sex get confused. Love, sex, partners of various ethnicities, genders — now, this is confusing when one limits. This confuses when one is closed to Love.

    We love and get high when Love is out. We are high on Love. So, you can be when limits are taken away. Love is part of the picture and we paint pictures greater than sheets in the wind.

    “What sheets?” The sheet you put down on the bed. No. The sheet in the wind is reflective of your effort to run, yet you hold on, fleeting moments of Truth fly past you, rippling waves through your being. You wonder what happened. You ask, “How do I love when restrictions are placed?” I say, “Go find Love. You will see it and Love will pass through your soul till you fly with wind in your sails.”

    I see some wonder what we say, why, how… We are saying you love many people and you hold your love for one, or two, if you are adulterous. We speak of Love that is free. It is to be shared — openly, respectfully, gratefully — with only the highest of intentions. No need to cheat, lie, anything trouble. We talk of speaking Love. If you are in a relationship where parties agree that Love is OK to be shared, OK then. If not, one will sadly hold back and the other continues restricting Love.

    We see you are here to question. We question your way, your life. We ask if you notice how heartstrings unravel if one is left and you remain. True? Therefore, find one who is happy. Ask why? See if they love. Find what works. Then draw conclusions.

    Polyamory is not for all. Some are unable to love more at once. This can be done if heart, mind, body, soul are witness to Love. If they join in Love, it is very possible.

    Go see if the definition is too “out there” for you. Find whether a bunch of Earth fools put the definition on Wikipedia for you to twist around in pain. (laughter)

    We leave with this: Can you open your heart (not your legs) to another, more so than you did before this piece? Can you take time to love if you see one who is neat? If so, find them, say, “Hey! Love me? Love you!”

    Love, The (Divine) Ones, David, as the host, Mary Magdala, Mary, the Mother, Jesus, and Heavenly Ones who wish to bake in Love, juice up Love, twist a sprig of Love,
    mount Love on a pedestal till Home is where you’ll be…

    Joanie wrote this, smiling, while we talked about Love. Thank you for writing. We love you.

    #13414
    denise
    Member

    Funny, I am taken utterly by surprise by your last post. I’m not even sure what to say here but I am going to try. Let’s NOT condone free sex. (I am actually rather surprised at you, since there is no procreation in the spirit world, from what I understand there is also no sex in heaven. Are you missing out???)

    Let’s start by learning from history. You sound a little like the hippies of the 60s with all your talk of free love and sex. We as a people were rewarded for that phase of history by acquiring AIDS and a bunch of other sexually transmitted diseases. It’s killing thousands and millions of people, leaving so many orphans in Africa and miserable, scared, dying, people all over the world. Uneducated people who think they will be cured by having sex with virgins, who walk around raping and infecting babies!

    Free sex also opened the doors for many various new and different acts of “love” including sex with children, pedopiles… You have to know how many young innocent children were damaged by being introduced to sex in scary, secretive, and violent ways that they were never ready for, physically or mentally. I won’t even get into discussions of pornography, prostitution, sex with animals, abortion, date rape, sex drugs, pain, bondage and other things I maybe never heard of! What I have learned from my teenagers is that children (in middle class suburbs) are having some kinds of sex as early as 13-14 years old. Are they even old enough to know what love is?

    Free sex has other consequences. How many babies end up growing up with one parent and no money? How many more pregnancies need to be terminated or born to unwed struggling mothers and deadbeat fathers, growing up angry and hostile before we close our collective legs and wait for the environment and timing that is in the best interest of the children? People around the world are killing their babies, or selling them to slavery–sexual slaves for horny men or work slavery for dangerous factories working their fingers to the bone. Every single problem in the world is because of a child who wasn’t properly loved and cared for.

    Sex is not equal to love. Sex is EGO. Sex makes us feel like we are good enough, attractive enough, desirable, and young. Sex sells. Sex is power. Sex is exciting. Sex is forbidden fruit. Sex is MONEY! Sex is forgetting. Sex is release. Sex is so many things

    I myself have been around a block or two in my life and I can definitely attest to the fact that there is a huge difference between sex and love. But often sex leads to love and more often love leads to sex, and yet they are different. I can love many people I have no interest in having sex with, and have sex with people I do not love. Yeah maybe it would be fun to have 2 or 30 or 400 husbands to love and enjoy but then they would do the same and in the end it would all turn into a competition for who’s got the most lovers the nicest body and we would all end up more insecure than before. Not to mention the disease and wondering whose child is this!

    So now let’s get back to LOVE. YES, I agree, love everybody. (But mostly without sex.) I love my family and friends, people I know, and even people I don’t know. I’ve been working hard on this. I notice that it’s easy to love people I know or talk to or listen to. But some days I look around and see someone who looks ugly. And try to love them. What color is their skin? What size is their body? Rotten teeth? Acne? Handicapped? Blind? Give love and love love love. We are all one.

    It is hard to love others with faults when you don’t love yourself. Work on knowing and loving yourself first. Accept your faults and theirs. Practice compassion, empathy. Walk a mile in each others shoes. Bear each others burdens, share each others joys. “We are all in this together…” “Get by with a little help…” “All you need is love…love is all you need.” (since you want some music.)

    Love isn’t just for people. Love the earth and the heavens and the stars. Love your pets and your plants. Love your new car and the open windows and the wind in your hair. Love the pretty tulips blooming through the frozen ground. Love your favorite foods and your favorite sport. Love your favorite books and movies and music. Love how you feel when the sun shines on your face.

    Love your angels and your guides, let’s not forget. I love to love! (I love sex too…sometimes.)

    I love you David (and all) but as you see you struck a chord with me. And if you really know me you know that I am no Virgin Mary. But I am learning respect for myself and my body and for the first time in my life have learned that there are many more important things in the world than sex. Don’t ruin it for me now.

    Love
    Denise

    #13388
    Joanie
    Member

    @Denise:

    The people are all around who read us — our words. They live in caves, on hilltops… No. We have readers in Egypt, Mesopotamia. “Hey!” OK. We are international in scope. Our readership is wide and people around the globe read David’s Guidance. If you’d like a list of countries, we’ll share. How’s that?

    The ones reading choose whether to participate. If you wish, we’ll ask again, “How are you? Do you need help finding words for us? We’ll stop. OK.” So, Denise. It’s all we can do. They have to decide.

    Thank you for the words about receiving us. To you we say, “Thank you for putting down words so others can learn.”

    Ouija: It is demonic. We believe the tray attracts spirits that are Dark. Please do not use the book that goes with it. It is very serious. The accounts are long of various suicides people have attempted after “playing” this “game.” Please remain seated. OK. Now, we say, enough of Ouija. It is foolish to use a tool that is methodically “programmed” to attract energies that are Dark. We warn the ones again, “This is foolish.” Thank you for listening to these words.

    Seance: The seance attracts spirits so they come through and speak to others in the room. Often, the person speaking is off in terms of what is received. If the channel is clear, messages are pure. If not, the messages received are unintelligible. We believe seances are not appropriate because spirits are locked in between worlds. This keeps a tie or bond with Earth and inhabitants. The Light is the home to go to, and we believe a source of healing is needed instead. Go, if you wish. It is your decision.

    The “religion” you created: This is your creation. Good. Is it feeling wonderful, or does it restrict, confine? We ask because religion often confines one to believe one set of beliefs. If you are happy, this is the most important of all things.

    Satan: He is a devil concept. We have belief that man created a devil concept to keep those in Light’s shadow. If you take Satan out/away, you have Light. Your Light is bright when devil concepts are eliminated. Do you feel good? I bet. This is due to your leaving hate, fear, loathing out of your path, your religion you created for yourself.

    All is Light. All is of Light. You grow, shift as it is fit. You see Love. This is good. Some wish Dark. What is it? It is Light without Love, Grace, Peace, Joy. When Love, Grace, Peace, Joy leave, we see Dark, empty figures lying, cheating, swearing, robbing, moaning — completely vacuous.

    Why would a Dark soul wish this? They need help in areas of compassion, loving, knowledge of beauty, etc. We know this disfigures you to hear this, yet we say choice regarding Love, Light versus Fear, Dark is one’s birthright. Yes. Choice is here for each soul. When one chooses to be free of lust, longing, tremendous weight is off their chest. When Love consumes them, Freedom is achieved. Therefore, each soul chooses a life in order to grow, shift for more expansion.

    Do you see how one does this — how they try to raise their vibration by doing something challenging for themselves to grow? How do you do this?

    No need to watch your back. We’ve got it covered, yet if you believe you need to watch your back, it’ll need protection. What you think or believe is what you draw in “Creationland,” as Joanie would say. So, take a while to completely digest this. If you want more, ask. We’re here, there, all over Creationland. (laughter and smiles)

    Love, David, the host, The Divine Ones: Mary Migdala, Jesus, the suitor, Mother Mary; Angels on High: Gabriel, Michael, Auriel, Uriel, Samuel, Raphael, the Healer.

    Tremendous accolades to you, Joanie, for putting so much on paper-to-computer today! We love you! Hooray! xo

    #13402
    jldy
    Member

    Lets all ride the Daisy Chain


    er I mean train (hope I havent overstepped my boundries 😉 ). I think I know what David and buddies are advocating and it has nothing to do with sex. It’s strange how some people will get Love and Sex to mean the same thing AND they do not! I Love my Mother ,I Love Many people but I’ve only ever had sex with some one I wanted too; do you see…… the two are different completely. I say let us all love each other; for who we are ,for what we do , for what we believe for who we are does not equate to sex. I want sex with a very special person in my life like my girlfriend or whoever it maybe, that is my personal prefernce. Love and sex together is a special thing between two people . I feel two souls who are bonded are special and a gift of God’s; some call them soul mates. That must be an unbelevable feeling more to do with Love then Sex but it comes as a package here on earth that is not seen to often. Now can you emagine loving all that you meet ;I’m not talking about sex, I’m talking about love……….what a marvelous feeling it must be!!! So I hope I have this right because it works for me. I have not had the priviledge to find personal love and it something I very much would LOVE to have! So Lets have a Love Fest 😀

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