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October 5, 2008 at 4:28 am #6471opalescentMember
From The Garden of Unknowable Things, posted 10/4/08:
Loudness: One type of encounter with your inevitable transformation is that of quiet acceptance. Another is resistance. Yet another is what you call boisterous accolades of heartfelt silence in loud expulsions of the energy of joy. This last type of encounter we would like to focus upon now, for the purpose of illustration. When you excite your senses with the expectation you hold for your future, given certain probabilities, you generate waveforms without your being which themselves generate the awareness of particular emotional states. Your experience of these emotional states emerges into the matrix of reality and becomes your conscious projection. What do you experience when you expect doom and yet are met with joy? What do you experience when you expect joy, yet you meet doom instead? Either way, you encounter variations in the waveforms of energetic manifestation in your reality which, if translated into sound would be described by one listening to your reality as loud. Even when quiet expectation meets an outcome very different from what was expected, loudness ensues. The effect of such displacement of energetic waves of understanding on the matrix is a near-complete rearrangement of thought processes. Thus, loudness as an experience of randomness can be used as an impulse with which to divert attention from one set of possibility to another and experience alternate realities from those which may not necessarily lead to outcomes of a dynamic energy of life. Loud and boisterous life enters the matrix. And with joy it seeks to make itself known.
October 5, 2008 at 5:38 am #9508WillMember…loud and boisterous…yeah that will work !…
…LET’S PARTY !…
October 5, 2008 at 5:57 am #9509echoMemberI was wondering if this loud proclamation of joy and excitement could eventually become a bad practice? I wonder if such a pulse of wild expectations would result in exciting a loud response. I’m familiar with the law of attraction and I can only assume that if you send out something loudly, that you should expect a response of equal proportion. Am I just making assumptions or is it fair to say; setting my expectations high will produce results of greater magnitude whether it be a positive or negative outcome? I hate to admit but I’m afraid. I fear that a request I made will be answered with a loud “No!” A great big spiritual denial. Or should I hope that by sending this loud request I’m directing myself and those who resonate with my frequency/dream towards the reality I desire? I’m just unsure and a little lost… 😐 , but if you could direct me, it would be greatly appreciated.
I’m sure this wasn’t what you were expecting from this thread, just a few thoughts that ran through my head as I read through your post. Please ignore my pessimistic attitude though, it’s something that tags along with my wondering mind.
I wait for your honest opinion. ~echo
October 5, 2008 at 7:02 am #9510opalescentMemberThanks, echo, for reading and asking 😀 With love, I offer my thoughts.
I find, as I write, that my life demonstrates the energies in the messages that come through me. (not always such an easy thing to stay on your feet with!) With this one, I am feeling as if I have somewhat gotten off of the roller coaster ride of expectation and disappointment, of excitement and despair. What I’ve noticed is calm where I should “expect” to be seeing myself all excited and jumping around… but I’m just… calm. And to me, now, that is the difference between hoping/believing and knowing. I know something is about to shift in a way and on a scale we can’t even begin to expect. I don’t know the details–though I can sketch out what I suppose–but in truth I can’t say with definitiveness what exactly we will be presented with in exactly what package and at exactly what time and place and manner (as I guess we’re all aflutter about the much-talked-about visitation I focus on that, but I also must say it was much in the forefront of the message as I received it). But I know a bit something is happening, and in knowing and knowing that I know (rather than believing I’m right about what I believe) I find I don’t really have any expectations at all about this, either for good or for ill. I have beliefs about the details, but I feel a lot more secure in knowing my place and purpose in my reality in regard to the change that’s about to come. This is bigger than a visit from a starship; that is the first gigantic step. It’s the transformation from human beings on a planet to humans being from a planet (as in, “I’m from Earth, what planet are you from?”), a completely new understanding of who and what we are.
So. As to the loudness thing… There are always layers in my stuff, hee hee 😆 You can see loudness in the way TPTB carry on to distract people from what’s happening to human consciousness across the globe. You can see loudness in the buzz on the web about imminent first contact being on what date and well, what if they’re wrong? If you can see “loudness” as “big waves of vibration”, disturbances to your equilibrium, then you can also see loudness happening in the world immediately around you. Not that there’s a big boom or crash or anything like that, but have you ever found yourself in the midst of change and rather than being knocked over by it, you just discover that you’ve gone through it? Like all of a sudden you see yourself and your life differently, even if just slightly? To me, the immediate response for finding myself in that position is gratitude! 😮 😆 If you can ride the waveform of what comes to you through your life, you can have the quiet zen calm of surfing. Out in the ocean (consciousness) away from the crashing shore (awareness of your self with a small “s”), just you on your surfboard feeling the wave go through your body, your beingness. A big wave comes toward you, and you can hear it with your senses, you can feel it, you don’t expect to do anything but you follow your intuition and your knowingness and you ride that wave. If you fall, it’s not so quiet, but if you know you can ride it, it’s like a whisper.
The message also has to do with how you choose to place yourself in relationship to your reality and with the matrix of consciousness. We’re too clever to place ourselves in a position of doom and think we’ll trick reality into surprising us with something wonderful, and we are too powerful as healers of ourselves to really buy into pretending to be joyful and expecting God to trick us with something nasty, or sabotaging ourselves, which is the same thing. I am guilty of having entertained that same fear you share, echo… that I have put my heart out and the rug gets pulled out from under me. That has proven to be a great point of healing for me over the years… I guess it’s a universal kind of fear, so the more of us that reach the point of trust that we recognize it as a belief and not an absolute truth, the easier it will be for everyone who remains trapped in that belief, thinking it is truth, to know otherwise.
So, what to do… Well, what do you know? What do you know that you really know in your bones and isn’t your mind saying it’s so? Even if it’s something small, own it as a knowingness, and let that be a seed. So of course make sure it’s nice and loving 😀 and let that knowing blossom and expand without pushing it in any direction through expectation. Allow knowingness to unfold naturally. If you can’t zero in on something right off, then start with an intention… “I intend to know that my beingness is part of an ultimately loving and life-affirming universe” or something along those lines. Set an intention to know what you need to know. Get expectation out of the way. Then, when life surprises you with something in response to your intention (to which, if you’re clever, you can always add “…and this knowingness comes to me in the most delightful, joyful, fun ways.” 😉 ), you will be free from anything (beliefs) that would anchor you to highs or lows and you, my dear friend, can remain a bit more steady as the “loud” waves of change come your way.
Not being one for loud proclamations myself, I’m finding peace in doing my work and making a bit of time to sit on the porch with a cup of tea, keeping an eye toward the sky… waiting, not expecting.
Be bold and be brave, my friend, and know that every possibility is open to your choice.
October 5, 2008 at 9:05 am #9511echoMemberWow thank you for such an extensive response! I wasn’t expecting my question to trigger such a long reply 😆 Anyways, I’m grateful you took the time to hear me out and comment on what has been troubling me.
You ask, what do you know? What do you know deep down? I know there is a choice to be made.
I mean there are many choices we face. Like what questions to ask or what to dream about. But the choice I’m talking about is to transcend the popular belief that only one religion is right or that we are alone in this universe. It’s when we make that step, to dismiss the weight of a system that binds you to think and act a certain way, that the fear sets in 😈 The fear of uncertainty. I’m not sure, but I feel that the uncertainty will stick with me until I receive a “loud” response, or at least what satisfies me as a loud response. But what I do know is that you don’t necessarily need to practice religion to be on a spiritual level. You don’t need to sit through a sermon or read a book to tell you what is right. Those answers lie within yourself, all you need to do is seek them out. I do know that once you feel free to imagine, the gates are open and you can choose what you want to believe, but sometimes people will grasp at anything to gain control of their wandering thoughts. Again I hate to admit, but I’m not exactly educated in the terminology and I haven’t exactly done my homework, but I feel that we are ONE. We all feel the same frequency, some may be more in sync with it than others, but its there, it’s recognizable. It’s the wavelength that emanates from the life force of the Earth. It’s what speaks to you (in a sense). It is the code of morals that we live by. When you are asking what is right you are essentially asking “In accordance to Mother Earth, which is the right path that will not cause harm or hindrance to any of nature’s children?” At least that is what I find to be true. That is why the people here treat each other with unconditional love, by listening to each (so to speak) and accepting their beliefs. But I do know that while you listen you should still remain a bit skeptic and accept only what you feel to be true, not so much what you wish to be true or what sways you. And that is what I fear most, to be swayed by my own fantasies… That’s why I fear a “loud” no. To wake up and realize nothing has changed. By writing this I don’t intend to defeat the hopes of those who read this or to criticize those who have posted their beliefs, I am simply sharing my thoughts on the matter. Not to say that you would be swayed by my personal fears.I can gladly admit that I have felt a shift, a very faint feeling of escalation maybe? or change? But whatever it is I’m still holding onto that fear and more importantly my hope. I truly believe in the evolution of humanity, in the most positive way possible. During the spring this year, I very loudly requested change, mostly for myself. This was prior to me searching for answers or truth. It’s actually what led me to search for evidence of a growing consciousness. But I now know I’m not the only one asking for change. It would be a lie if I said I wasn’t excited to see what tomorrow will bring. But Time is an obstacle and I know that change will not be immediate so I am patiently waiting, living day by day, moving slowly toward my answers. But you’re right. I wish I could take a more calm, more mature approach and make better use of my time. ah well, just in time…
I’m sorry, please excuse my ranting… I feel if I don’t get this out I’ll never express myself. I don’t mean to be off topic but I feel it’s somewhat related. I guess you can say I loudly shared my opinion. 😐 But please feel free to agree with or criticize anything I’ve written.
I eagerly and patiently await for your reply 🙂 ~echo
October 5, 2008 at 3:24 pm #9512jamwolfskyMemberYes, there is a sequence in what you are describing. But you bounce to scepticism forgetting doubt. I see scepticism as a clever way of projecting our own doubt on others with a disguise of objectivity, reason and sometimes scholarly pose. Doubt is more intimate. Have you noticed how doubt pops up everytime you get in touch with some intimate truth about Love and yourself on your spitritual path as a last attempt of the matrix to hinder the flow of love in your life. Don’t forget you can choose doubt and fear instead of Love. The matrix has a clever way of making us believe that fear and doubt are ‘natural’ guest we have to keep in our conscious chamber forever. I discovered not long ago that I could choose between doubt, fear and Love. This was a revelation to me. Sorry, for this disgression but I know what I will be thinking of, next time I have a cup of tea 🙂 . Here is a video channeling from Master St Germain. The channeler seems to be inflated with Peace Loving helium 😀 but the message is Peace Loving clear and straightfoward 😎 . [youtube:3ggpnjd3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ7IkHWXl70[/youtube:3ggpnjd3]
October 5, 2008 at 4:19 pm #9513opalescentMemberYes, james, the soul does not doubt. The mind does. 😕 💡
October 5, 2008 at 4:40 pm #9514miaMemberI have experienced both the ‘loud joy’ and the ‘quiet joy’
The ‘loud joy’ always burns me out lol, exhausts me.
But the ‘quiet joy’ just gently simmers, enveloping everyone I come into contact with and makes me feel happy and peaceful.
However, I have no control over which ‘joy’ I shall have next , nor when I shall have it.mmm, I hope I have understood the post ……………
October 5, 2008 at 6:15 pm #9515opalescentMemberaaargh! I just had a post eaten, ahh! 😮
Okay, here’s what I was saying… dear light-echo! Thank you for asking, because there are many with the same questions who are reading…
Actually, I’ll just post the stuff that was going along with what I wrote. I can’t reconstruct it with the same energy… and this is really what I wanted to share.
light-echo from the star monocerotis
Drive, Incubus live at Hove festival
[youtube:33fnsqij]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIzTqjB9Qbw[/youtube:33fnsqij]
Sometimes, I feel the fear of uncertainty stinging clear
And I can’t help but ask myself how much I’ll let the fear take the wheel and steer.
It’s driven me before, and it seems to have a vague, haunting mass appeal.
But lately I’m beginning to find that I should be the one behind the wheel.Whatever tomorrow brings, I’ll be there with open arms and open eyes.
So, if I decide to waiver my chance to be one of the hive
Will I choose water over wine and hold my own and drive?
It’s driven me before and it seems to be the way that everyone else gets around.
But lately I’m beginning to find that when I drive myself my light is found.Whatever tomorrow brings, I’ll be there with open arms and open eyes.
Would you choose water over wine….hold the wheel and drive?[youtube:33fnsqij]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2vkwy2vdP4[/youtube:33fnsqij]
“You can’t stop the waves, but you can learn to surf.” Jon Kabat-Zinn(I posted this poem on another thread, but it’s good here too)
Tired of Speaking Sweetly
HafizLove wants to reach out and manhandle us,
Break all our teacup talk of God.If you had the courage and
Could give the Beloved His choice, some nights,
he would just drag you around the room
By your hair,
Ripping from your grip all those toys in the world
That bring you no joy.Love sometimes gets tired of speaking sweetly
And wants to rip to shreds
All your erroneous notions of truth
That make you fight within yourself, dear one,
And with others,
Causing the world to weep
On too many fine days.The Beloved sometimes wants
To do us a great favor:
Hold us upside down
And shake all the nonsense out.But when we hear
He is in such a ‘playful drunken mood’
Most everyone I know
Quickly packs their bags and hightails it
Out of town.October 6, 2008 at 7:25 pm #9516echoMemberhmm… Incubus is great 🙂 Thanks again for your direction, I also liked the top picture. Very beautiful
@jamwolfsky wrote:
I see scepticism as a clever way of projecting our own doubt on others with a disguise of objectivity
Well i guess you’re right. I just don’t like to use the word doubt, it feels a little more charged with meaning. I would like to believe that I’m being more objective than undecided, because I believe, just not everything I hear. I’d like to remain indifferent not doubtful.
October 6, 2008 at 9:04 pm #9517jamwolfskyMember@echo wrote:
hmm… Incubus is great 🙂 Thanks again for your direction, I also liked the top picture. Very beautiful
@jamwolfsky wrote:
I see scepticism as a clever way of projecting our own doubt on others with a disguise of objectivity
Well i guess you’re right. I just don’t like to use the word doubt, it feels a little more charged with meaning. I would like to believe that I’m being more objective than undecided, because I believe, just not everything I hear. I’d like to remain indifferent not doubtful.
No, I don’t mean that brother 🙂 ! This is what some use for brainwashing saying “you don’t believe what this group has said therefore you are guilty of doubt”. All I am saying is sometimes it is useful to make a pause and use introspection or meditation, we then learn a lot about ourselves. I myself don’t believe everything I read in this site , thank god 😀 !! And feeling I am one with someone doesn’t mean I have the same beliefs on everything it only means we feel a common bond of love. What happens then, if someone has a belief system I don’t share, it doesn’t constitute an obstacle. It is just an aspect of a larger and more profound reality. I see doubt as a key, or a door we can open to explore love in our being. This is why, I was focusing on doubt. We have so many clever ways of distracting ourselves to avoid the exploration of our own being. …and usually in this process we get in touch with feelings. Yes feeling sometimes hurts, and feeling is not “objective”, but it is a jewel if we wish to reunite with love. 🙂
October 7, 2008 at 5:42 am #9518opalescentMember -
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