…the Feline Race and Nibiru…

[Will]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sHk4Kqy9B0

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[Neiru2012]

Mmm… I ponder the wisdom of replying to this topic. I have nothing to say about Nibiru, but I do object to that video’s portrayal of the feline race. The feline race being descended from humans? Well, I can see humans wanting feline qualities, but I can never see felines wanting simian qualities. Maybe there are humanoid felines out there who are a result of humans manipulating their own DNA, but please remember that they are not the only feline race, and not what I (who consider myself linked to felines) would call a pure feline race. Humans have a tendency to anthropomorphise other animals without considering their native qualities. Cats (I include big cats, with lions being the only exception) are highly selective about who they love, who they protect, and certainly who they socialize with. Unlike wolves and bears, they are also exclusively carnivorous. Indeed, they are the fiercest mammalian predator this planet has ever seen. They are very proud.

Now, my links with felines are totemic, but possibly also ether-genetic. I say possibly because while the race that is part of me takes on strong feline qualities and favors the feline form, it is not a pure feline race as the ones native to this universe. I’m still not sure if their energy is simply very similar to feline energy so they identify with it, or if this universe’s felines can actually trace their lineage back to my etheric race.

[Will]

…we share an ancestry with the feline race…the simian model was just chosen for this world…there are many other models…Dino…Insectoid…draco…most sentient life in this sector is bi-pedal and upright…this alligns our chakras vertically…

[opalescent]

Perhaps we simply need to re-examine what we mean by “human”.

[Alusa]

most sentient life in this sector is bi-pedal and upright…this alligns our chakras vertically…

Will, I would have to strongly disagree with this. There are many kinds of sentience/intelligence just plants and animals from nature can teach you many things and they all have something to offer, and “vertically aligned chakras” does not in any way make us smarter or superior. That is the sort of thinking that got man into this mess, thinking that hes more or better in some way, then he starts ignoring, forgets his connections to nature and abuses his power. We overpopulate the earth, we clear cut rain forests which make most of the worlds oxygen, hold the most bio-diversity on the planet and many undiscovered medicines, we pollute our oceans and poison our fish because we’ve grown reckless with the environment and have generally lost respect for it as human beings, that’s like cutting off your own hand. I don’t care if they are bipedal or not, they are just as important as any of us, and have just as much if not more to offer and you might be surprised how very “sentient” plants and animals can be. To me its crazy that bipedalism or vertical chakras could be a sign of superiority or higher intelligence, were just different that’s simply ridiculous.

[opalescent]

Gee, I didn’t read anything about superiority in that post… 😕

[Neiru2012]

@opalescent wrote:

Gee, I didn’t read anything about superiority in that post… 😕

I did.

I take offense to the word “sentient” used in such a manner, because it is in the same way that humans misuse the word to justify their treatement of other life forms on this planet.

But definition of sentient, even in human dictionaries, is:
adjective
1. having the power of perception by the senses; conscious.
2. characterized by sensation and consciousness.
noun
3. a person or thing that is sentient.
4. Archaic. the conscious mind.

All things are sentient

[Will]

…we are all cells in the body of God…one cell is not of any greater value than any other…All are needed…all have different roles to play…I define sentience as being self-aware… we are like the brain cells of God…(please do not misinterperet that as arrogance )…maybe more accurately we are the nerve endings…the sensory percepters…certain characteristics put us in a particular catagory…we as multi-dimential beings can also experience all aspects of reality…we can experience non-sentient existance…you can feel what it is to be a rain drop falling to Earth or a leaf gathering sunlight…

…sentient life in This sector is in this configuration…different Local Universes explore different aspects of experience…sentience in another galaxy might be inconcievable to the human mind…which brings me to another point…

…the human biological mind is only capable of being so much aware…there are only so many steps that can be taken at this level…but important steps non the less…

…I am sure that others of you feel that we accepted a condition of being slightly retarded to come here and work…this comment is not meant in any way to be a slur…a just *what IS * comment…

[opalescent]

Perhaps it’s the ability to communicate that is at the core of “sentience” as used here, and which is being beautifully demonstrated in this most interesting thread 😉

[Neiru2012]

Now other animals can’t communicate?
Sorry, I completely, utterly, and entirely disagree with these ideas of “sentience,” nor do I consider other beings not self-aware. Other animals communicate, form relationships, and strategically cooperate within and across species more efficiently than any human society. And that’s just going by human understandings of awareness.

Other animals not being multidimensionally aware?
If anything, they are even more aware of other realities than humans are. Other animals routinely see astral entities, respond to auras, ley lines, and react to intuition.

I guess we can debate this all day, and god/dess knows I have, but it just pisses me off in the end. It’s one of my hot buttons along with anthrocentricism, condescension towards nature, abuse of the planet, and slandering Darkness. So lets just say I couldn’t disagree more and leave it at that…

[opalescent]

Of course animals can communicate. I communicate with my feline companion all the time. All animals and plants and minerals are sentient, each in a particular way. I have communicated with animals, insects, plants as well as with minerals, seasonal spirits, and elementals, and would be happy to share those experiences with you, yet you seem quite eager, Neiru, to jump to the conclusion that humans as a rule don’t understand that level of communication and seem worthy of some derision on the subject. In short, there seems to be more respect shown to animals than to humans on this thread… and by that, I do not mean to separate the two into any kind of heirarchy, simply delineating the distinction between those beings who communicate verbally through typing on computers and those who communicate on more subtle networks 😉

What I was alluding to in this thread is that sentience, self-awareness, implies the core ability to communicate, dynamically, dimensionally, specifically within a network of like kind, and if one is sensitive to that universality of beingness one can interact.

It is true that some humans have decided not to be aware of this. Does that make them insentient? Does insentience, perceived or otherwise defined, create the basis for non-beingness? Neither humans or animals are better or worse in terms of their right to be, nor should their innate nobility be called into question. It is the outer expression of nobility that may have some issue here, perhaps. But everything, EVERYTHING, is a form of light, and those forms one may find detestable, reproachable, or worthy of disrespect are in fact beings of great light wearing the cloak of darkness in part so that through our interaction with them we may discover some light of our own hidden behind some dark mask. The particular gift of animals, generally speaking, is that they see behind all that. We can each learn from them and through that perhaps treat each other with a little more respect.

[Neiru2012]

@opalescent wrote:

You seem quite eager, Neiru, to jump to the conclusion that humans as a rule don’t understand that level of communication and seem worthy of some derision on the subject.

I do not “seem,” I am. And while I appreciate that you are able and willing to communicate with other species, you can’t honestly tell me that the majority of humans feel that way. I do not hide my derision towards humans. I am not here for them. There’s plenty of others here to help them. I am here to protect everything else from them, and if that means I have to work with them, so be it. But mostly, I just try to stay clear of the 99.9% of them.

Don’t get me wrong, I liked humans just fine 1000-500 years ago (depending on continent). Their societies weren’t perfect, but at least their problems didn’t spill over to other species and they were aware of their place in the universe. But I greatly disapprove of the last ~150 years. Frankly, the way things are now, I shouldn’t even consider humans citizens of this planet (by their own admission of separation from nature and the biosphere). But I know that all these problems arise from their self-imposed separation from reality (nature) and that they only lash out so dysfunctionally because they’re hurting inside as a species. That’s all well and good, and I’ve had periods of startling lucidity where I could cry from joy and embrace them as siblings, but I’m still currently mortal, and the temptation to revert to bitterness at the culture clash is still too great. I have great respect for this planet’s unparalleled opportunities for growth as a result of their increasing dysfunctionality, and I rejoice at the amount of experiential data streaming from Earth on all fronts, but as an incarnate being, I am part of this data stream, and it is important for me not to censor my subjective mortal reactions to the conditions here.

[opalescent]

@Neiru2012 wrote:

I am not here for them. There’s plenty of others here to help them. I am here to protect everything else from them, and if that means I have to work with them, so be it. But mostly, I just try to stay clear of the 99.9% of them.

Don’t get me wrong, I liked humans just fine 1000-500 years ago (depending on continent). Their societies weren’t perfect, but at least their problems didn’t spill over to other species and they were aware of their place in the universe. But I greatly disapprove of the last ~150 years. Frankly, the way things are now, I shouldn’t even consider humans citizens of this planet (by their own admission of separation from nature and the biosphere). But I know that all these problems arise from their self-imposed separation from reality (nature) and that they only lash out so dysfunctionally because they’re hurting inside as a species. That’s all well and good, and I’ve had periods of startling lucidity where I could cry from joy and embrace them as siblings, but I’m still currently mortal, and the temptation to revert to bitterness at the culture clash is still too great. I have great respect for this planet’s unparalleled opportunities for growth as a result of their increasing dysfunctionality, and I rejoice at the amount of experiential data streaming from Earth on all fronts, but as an incarnate being, I am part of this data stream, and it is important for me not to censor my subjective mortal reactions to the conditions here.

Should you decide to direct your passion in the direction of love for the human organism, the planet as a whole would be well served.

You hold great reverence for at least one human. Love makes no distinctions, but recognizes the truth of the natural world’s interdependence. In loving oneself, loving the self in all things and beings, the whole can be brought into harmony more efficiently than in selective, arbitrary destruction, whether intentional or from starvation of the part from the nurturance of the whole.

While I have no right to say whether any incarnated soul’s path is right or wrong, I do have the right to say “I love you”. And in loving you, an incarnated soul sharing the data stream that IS Earth, I contribute to the benefit of all life. And so I say to you as a dot of flesh to another of its kind, I love and respect you, for you are of OM.

[Will]

…dearest Neiru…

…we are all ONE…and we are given different positions in this field of opperations so that Source may take advantage of Many perspectives… Many kingdoms are involved…I admire that you champion the kingdoms that you feel have no voice…the devic …elemental …and elvin …for a few…
…there is a cross polination of experience that is being allowed at this time…many from the different kingdoms are being allowed to cross-experience…this blurrs definition lines and makes generalities moot…maybe part of what I was *told* to say was partly to draw you out…welcome brother…I love you too…

…I am sure that as you feel more comfortable your defensiveness will not be so accute and that we will get to see more of your unique vision…I await with anticipation…

…what do you *know* of yourself and your mission ?…

[Neiru2012]

I do not feel that non-human life has no voice, I just feel that humans don’t hear it. Often refuse to hear it.

I express my “love” for all things by being vegan (my philosphy about which I have considered posting on this forum), by going door to door and talking to hundreds of people about the direction of their country (USA), and by honoring all things through ritual, meditation, and prayer. But, really, the word “love” as used in this context means little to me. I don’t mean to offend those that use it, but I see someone that doesn’t know me through meaningful one-on-one interactions saying they “love” me as an empty and even demeaning statement. I realize that you don’t mean it to be, but it still pushes me away. It’s probably a matter of semantics, but to me “love” is earned, and is closely associated with “loyalty” and “protection.” I “love” the universe as my own self and respect all things as equals. This is not a new and passionate feeling that I want to project towards everyone (although it happens on occasion), it is just a constant feeling of peace, acceptance, and harmony. It’s who I am. This doesn’t mean that I can’t have reactions to things. I do not look at humans and say “that’s okay, they don’t understand what they’re doing.” To me, that’s a condescending way to approach equals. I look at them and think: “I have a human body. I have a human mind. If I can take responsibility for myself, they should also be accountable.” If I didn’t, I wouldn’t be fulfilling my part in the game we’re all participating in. I wouldn’t be providing the catalyst that I do.

But who am I? May as well come out and say that I am not of the Light. Light is part of who I am, but my deepest core is Darkness. That is the true “unique vision” I offer. But I can’t possibly explain it right now. Instead, I’m working as best I can to compose a separate thread on that topic, since the person who invited me to this forum thinks there is much healing that can take place among the Light-aligned in that area.

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