The Shadow Government: What Led You To Believe?

[clever_sky]

Okay folks my question is, what lead you to believe in the existence of the Illuminati (aka the shadow government)?

This past summer was the final turning point on my view of the possible existence of a shadow government. It began when I took a ‘science in society’ class, for Gen. ED., called “Chemistry and the Environment”. It was basically a combination of chemistry, ethics/morals, and environmental issues. One of the readings we had for homework was an article on ecofeminism and our market economies. “Okay,” I thought, “This is going to be another one of those far left radical feminist arguments that give feminists like me (the belief in the equality of both genders) a bad rap.” But it turned out to be quite a somewhat reasonable argument.

Anyway skipping ahead to the point, there was a particular quoted passage by the author, of a work by Vandana Shiva, really got me thinking:

“Shiva calls Western-type development ‘maldevelopment’ because it results in real poverty (the denial of survival needs) while, ironically, trying to eliminate culturally perceived poverty…Indeed, the Western ploy is to deny that subsistence economies count as economies at all. The work done for the sake of sustenance is not ‘productive.’ And if the work done by many women in the Western world is not considered ‘productive,’ or worth anything from an economic point of view, it is easy see how woman-based subsistence economies can be viewed as not ‘productive.’ Shiva sums it up in one of her apt subtitles: ‘development as a new project of Western patriarchy.’”

In short, not only is it sexism but this also denies people the ability to provide for their own basic needs, therefore, it increases the influence and power of the Illuminati. Or at least that’s what I see.

So what does everyone think of this?

[opalescent]

The game has so many facets! I wouldn’t know what started me on the path of understanding it, but I’ll offer this recent example of distinguishing between useless eaters and consumers. It’s what allows people to eat 8-course meals after talking about food shortages in Africa, while women in Haiti fed their children dirt cakes.

G8 leaders feast on 8 courses after discussing world food shortages

Food shortages and the need to double African production may dominate the G8 summit but even as they discussed the problems of the developing world yesterday, the leaders of the world’s richest nations, joined by several African leaders, ate course after course of fine food.

In a questionable public relations move, the summit’s Japanese organisers proudly displayed to the press the menus for a sumptuous eight-course banquet laid on last night and a five-course lunch a few hours earlier.

The leaders tucked into truffle soup and crab as they discussed Zimbabwe and aid to Africa’s poorest people. The evening feast of 19 separate dishes included diced fatty flesh of tuna fish and milk-fed lamb with aromatic herbs. Tomorrow, after working up an appetite discussing soaring food prices, the leaders will enjoy a £200 dinner of giant crab, £50-a-kilogram langoustine and sweet clover ice cream, prepared by Michel Bras, a Michelin three-star French chef.

It is all in keeping with a summit that has cost a total of 60 billion yen (£283 million) – enough to have bought 100 million mosquito nets to save Africans from catching malaria – and that frequently seems at odds with the Japanese hosts’ professed theme of ecology and environmentalism.

The International Media Centre, which will be dismantled after the summit, was purpose-built at a cost of £24 million: a total of £8 million a day.

Fibreoptic cables for the press centre have cost a further £43 million. The Japanese Government has completely refurbished the rooms, lawns and carpets of the Windsor Hotel, where the leaders are meeting, and resurfaced much of the perfectly serviceable 100km (60mile) road to the airport.

The public have been kept at least 30 miles from the hotel, which is perched on the top of a mountain overlooking a beautiful volcanic lake. It is protected by 20,000 police officers, air force planes fly regular patrols and coastguard and naval ships are on standby in the nearby bay.

Chefs have been given carte blanche to spend as much as they like on their menus, which yesterday had the theme of Hokkaido, Blessings of the Earth and the Sea, after the northernmost Japanese island where the summit is being held.

A menu issued yesterday proudly boasted that the chefs “know everything that there is to know about food in Hokkaido”. It added: “The three specialists will make the best of Hokkaido’s natural blessings, supported by higher quality ingredients, more natural ingredients and the soil with which to enjoy them.”

Yesterday’s dishes were prepared by Katsuhiro Nakamura, the first Japanese to win a Michelin star, who was brought out of retirement for the summit. He was hired as the “grand chef” by the Windsor Hotel, where the Presidential Suite costs £7,000 a night.

On Sunday Gordon Brown advised householders at home not to waste food as the world copes with a shortage. He said that ending food waste could save families £8 a week. The Prime Minister’s aides insisted that the aim of his message was not to hector people.

Andrew Mitchell, the Shadow International Development Secretary, said last night: “The G8 have made a bad start to their summit, with excessive cost and lavish consumption. Surely it is not unreasonable for each leader to give a guarantee that they will stand by their solemn pledges of three years ago at Gleneagles to help the world’s poor. All of us are watching, waiting and listening.”

Dominic Nutt, of Save the Children, said: “It is deeply hypocritical [that] they should be lavishing course after course on world leaders when there is a food crisis and millions cannot afford to eat.”

The menus in full: Dinner

Corn-stuffed caviar
Smoked salmon and sea urchin “pain surprise” style
Hot onion tart
Winter lily bulb and summer savoury

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Folding fan modelled tray decorated with bamboo grasses including
Kelp-flavoured cold Kyoto beef “shabu-shabu”, asparagus dressed with sesame cream
Diced fatty flesh of tuna fish, avocado and jellied soy sauce and Japanese herb “shiso”
Boiled clam, tomato, “shiso” in jellied clear soup of clam
Water shield and pickled conger dressed with vinegar soy sauce
Boiled prawn with jellied tosazu vinegar
Grilled eel rolled around burdock strip
Sweet potato
Fried and seasoned Goby with soy sauce and sugar

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Hairy Crab “Kegani” bisque soup

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Salt-grilled bighand thornyhead with vinegary water pepper sauce

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Milk fed “shiranuka” lamb flavoured with aromatic herbs and mustard
Roasted lamb and cepes and black truffle with emulsion sauce of lamb’s stock and pine seed oil

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Special cheese selection, lavender honey and caramelised nuts

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G8 fantasy dessert

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Coffee served with candied fruits and vegetables
Wine list
Le Reve grand cru champagne
Japanese saki
Corton Charlemagne 2005
Chateau Latour burgundy
Ridge California Monte Bello 1997
Tokaji Essencia 1999 from Hungary

from TimesOnline

[Annan]

Well, I ask som simple questions as a reply to clever_sky, and will follow it up later: What would the feeling of ecxtasy bee, if that is the only feeling that you have felt? What is the feeling of beeing loved if that is the only feeling you have felt? What is complete satisfaction, if that is the only feeling you have felt? And last amongst many what is beeing rich if you do not know what is it to be poor? This could go on and on and on….

Let us reason around this, and put the belife in fear to the side – those who fear are only facing their own fear-creations, nothing more nothing less. I totally see you point, but tuning in to birdview and these matters become a little more nuanced. There is now power except the power of Love. And we do not fear love, do we? Yes, we fear the lack of it from others…..and that is the profound lesson of the issue….that makes ONE believe that some-ONE else is making the lack of what one craves. Non-duality aka LOVE!!

And Opal…..hahaha….what to say about that post. 😆
Well, who are we to use the resources in a correct way…..if we have not experienced how to DO NOT use them in a correct way? And the G8 gave me today a very worthy lesson, how I am not going to use my resources…..so thanks to them for that…..and bless them a pretty good meal over there

Much love
Annan the Nordic

[echo]

I’ve always lived easily, almost selfishly, off of the almost carefree lifestyle America provides for most of its people. This doesn’t apply to everyone, but I think it’s fair to say that most people in this country are either blind or ignorant to the incredibly sad things that are happening around the world. Because it doesn’t effect us directly or we don’t literally see it in our own lives. With all of the T.V. shows, movies, games, magazines, hair/nail salons, sports games, we prefer to stay distracted. Not that we don’t know what is going on outside our comfort walls, but because we prefer our ignorance. It’s easier for our conscience to say we never knew. And that’s how the people who can do something about it prefer it too (like governments esp. in America), it just perpetuates the cycle, we keep running the hamster wheel.

I think it was when I realized things like this is when I lost faith in our political and social structure in this country.

It’s fair to say the we all have taken advantage of our situation. I doubt that anyone here can say that they have never thrown out food that they couldn’t finish. I work at a restaurant and I notice how wasteful people can be (for one small place in my town) and it makes me so angry. It’s ironicle that the G8 leaders would feast after such a topic. I’m not sure I would be so hungry. But for those who do understand how ignorant this situation is, we are all just hypocritisizers (like these G8 “leaders”) unless we do something about it.

[MushiMushi]

The Shadow Government is something that is very obvious to all once you have the right channels of information and common sense…

From…

http://cuttingedge.org/n1040.html

Blatantly Obvious…

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23562

To: Ancient Texts as reference…

http://lax-v127.lax.youtube.com/get_video?video_id=9BaO_ZtiBCA&ip=41.208.50.176&signature=436DF29B87026C583EC55C26E500709CFA8705B3.1145B71F06420D70348EC05EF0FEF9845C9FEF02&sver=2&expire=1230995050&key=yt4&ipbits=0

This video discusses gender equality…

Thought you might like…

Love Mush

[Zingdad]

Wow, yeah, there are SO MANY answers to this question. I guess I would say you only need to look in any one direction deeply enough and things just don’t add up anymore. That is to say the information we are given no longer fits the facts of what you can observe. The only way things then begin to add up again is you rearrange your paradigm to include a group (or groups) of powerful people that are not visible but that are REALLY running the scene. Honestly ANYTHING you look at hard enough (and with an open enough mind) will yield this. Or so I believe. Others may differ with me of course. But you ask the question “what led you to believe”. For me personally I have two answers. The one is “real world” and the other is “spiritual”.

In the “real world” I encountered the theory of the illuminati in many different places but remained on the fence. Until I studied up on economics a bit. They say one way to find out who committed a crime is to “follow the money”. Well this is very good advice in this context. Go and read up on the the world banking system. On how money really works. On why we have inflation. On what underlying true value of monetary system is based. If you study this stuff long enough you get quite ill. It is very apparent that SOMEONE is pulling the strings. Someone is manipulating the world into valuing itself in terms of the arbitrary values THEY give us and then then just keep making us poorer and poorer against that value. Which they own, control and manipulate. Now you can study all this stuff for a very long time or you can do yourself the favour of watching “Zeitgeist – the movie” and “Zeitgeist addendum”. I don’t slavishly agree with everything in these movies and if it were me I would have left a lot of stuff out there. But I can very firmly recommend them as a great beginning into understanding the current world financial system, why it is the way it is, how it got this way, and why we should chuck this whole system… and even some great recommendations and thoughts about what we can replace it with. But the bottom line is I’m pretty sure that anyone that watches these movies with an open mind will come away with a sure conviction that there are people that are REALLY in power that are never elected. You can call them the illuminati or anything else you like but they are most certainly there.

The second place I encountered the idea of a shadowy behind the scenes power cabal was, strangely enough, in my spiritual questing. It’s a LOOOOOOONG story that I won’t go into all the details of but the main point is that I was, in my late teens and early twenties, very frustrated with my life. Things just didn’t make sense. I felt some acute pain at the lack of understanding I had about my own self: why am I here? who am I really? why is the world the way it is? These kinds of questions plagued me. They burned at me. I tried all kinds of stuff to get answers: psychics and clairvoyants, meditation, past-life regression, hypnosis, auto-hypnosis, psychedelics, nature retreats, flotation chambers… the list goes on and on. I had a kind of aching obsession to begin to get answers. At first they were very slow in coming. And then few years ago I had a breakthrough. All this “processing” had the side-effect of me working out my ego issues enough that I began to be able to receive sort of telepathic communication from my spirit guide. I had big issues with doubt and that took me some months to even begin to tame. But long story short: I started to get some answers. Now, all I really wanted to do was find inner peace for myself. But in my questing after that I discovered that a lot of my inner pain was only explicable in terms of past lives. I needed to understand and heal those past-life experiences. But the flabbergastingly weird thing for me to understand was that most of those past lives played out on other planets! And the more I dug and delved the more weird it all became. One the one hand the stories I was getting very neatly explained how I felt inside and they were bringing me peace and healing but on the other hand they were pretty outlandish tales of galactic civilisations, of time-outside-of-time… all kinds of weirdness. And anyway, to get to question, woven into those whole huge mad tableau was the understanding that this earth is not managed as it seems to be. That there is a group that has been running the scene from the shadows for all of our history. And that our REAL history is NOTHING like we are told. But that all of this is from a higher perspective just a part of a greater plan. That it’s all really okay. That each of us can choose to play the game any way we want. Here are some permutations:
1. We can play little games in which we choose to ignore the issue the illuminati altogether. We can ignore the atrocities going on around us and believe the lies told to us on TV news.
2. Or we can have a bigger view. We can see ourselves as “warriors of the light” and we can actively try to fight the insidious plot of the illuminati by spreading the “truth” and by conscientising others about this.
3. Or, indeed, we can decide to serve the illuminati and align ourselves with their goals in the hope of gaining money and power.
4. Or we can take a larger view still which is to see the Oneness of All. To understand that all is perfect and that there are no victims and no perpetrators. Only contracts for experience.

Now the thing is we are in a very special time right now. Globally this is the time of the ascension. Which is another very long tale but essentially each of us must raise our consciousness from the level it currently inhabits. So in terms of the ascension process we can re-classify the above people like this:
2. Are those that will ascend to the next density as “Service to Other”. They are essentially people that want to make the world a better place and are willing to “fight the dark forces” to get this right
3. Are those that will ascend to the next density as “Service to Self”. They are people that don’t give a damn about anyone else as long as they get what they want.
1. Are the undecided ones. They can’t ascend. So they are going to be pushed to decide. Things are going to become more and more stark, more and more obvious. The truth of what is going on is going to come out in more and more powerful ways. It will be ever greater to deny that there is, for example, an illuminati. People must choose to ascend. If they steadfastly refuse then they stay at this density but must go to another planetary reality. Which is another story.
4. These are the ones that ascend to an ever higher density. They leave behind duality density altogether.

There is no right or wrong here. People simply choose what they want to experience next by their choices now. You get the reality that you are creating. But the point of this whole story is that I came to understand that there was an “opposition”. That they had a very important role to play. And that they are represented here on our planet ass the “power cabal” or “illuminati”. And so THAT is how I came to understand this from a spiritual perspective.

And that is my story.

[echo]

Thanks Zingdad, I agree with most of what you said, about ascension, people who sit in a seat of power, and how we choose to direct ourselves.

I’d say it’s hard to focus on one specific thing because of the amount of things that happen every day. I can only assume there are people that are making plans and are carelessly deciding the fate of thousands, behind locked doors… The truth is, this isn’t a secret. It happens everyday, maybe on a much smaller scale. Corporate board meetings, teacher conferences, activist groups, I don’t know… People are, and have been, directing people and showing them how to live, it’s basically how “we” maintain the system. But it’s when we travel up the scale to where the decisions have the possibility to disrupt and cause a massive ripple effect is when people should be wary. When it gets to the point where figures we can’t see make these choices, the average person could be in danger, and this causes a lot of paranoia.

Control is not as spiritual as I thought it might have been. It’s actually sort of childish. If we run down the scale again, it’s like a bully and a kid on the playground. There are a limited amount of outcomes to a situation like this, but an infinite amount of approaches… I’m used to hearing the story of how the bully extorts the kid for his lunch money. The bigger kid usually flashes his muscle or travels with his gang to express his concept of power. Understandably the weaker child tends to bend to the will of the bully, or gets beat the fuck up. From this moment on the bully will probably return to its victim and repeat the same situation because of its rate of success. But in reality we grow and we don’t stay kids on a playground, we become educated. Assuming the bully doesn’t pick on smaller kids because of a short temper and learning disabilities, let’s say he majors in business, graduates, eventually starts a business, etc. This person could be dangerous and an unstable leader because of selfish thought processing, but we are told to respect these people because they made it in the big world.

The higher up the scale people climb, the easier it is to become invisible. And that’s the idea, the more (money/respect/fame) you’ve got, the easier it is to hide the skeletons in the closet. At this point it becomes a game of distraction. The longer you can keep people distracted the easier it is to reach for more in the fiscal, material sense. But we all know, or at least I’ve come to realize, that chasing these fickle ideas is a pointless attempt to bring fulfillment into your life. That’s why I don’t fear those people. The reality is: things are ever changing. Like a building built on a fault line, it’s susceptible to destruction when the earth moves.

My real concern is, who is planning to pick up the pieces when it all falls down (not who is willing to change, but who is setting up the domino’s). The one situation people often overlook with the bully example is to outwit the thug. To escape harm and refuse to bend down low is the idea. Sometimes the result doesn’t turn out exactly as planned, but the message is most important. Your fear based mind games and your concept of control is just and illusion and is a final attempt to distract you from the reality of the situation. People can’t hide from the truth… forever.

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