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February 4, 2009 at 2:59 am #6829clever_skyMember
Okay I know that everyone has what’s called a “twin flame”. But all the examples I’ve seen have been on a female-to-male scale. What if, hypothetically, a person was the opposite gender in a past lifetime or has a homosexual orientation? Does a “twin flame” have fixed gender or does it change depending on the individual in this plane of existence?
February 4, 2009 at 7:37 am #11990ZingdadMemberHi C_S
I think the twin flames thing is a very much misunderstood, over-hyped and over-used notion. I’ll offer my opinion on what this is based and how it works.
Firstly I don’t agree at all that “everyone has a twin flame”. It would depend on the incarnating soul how it want to express itself into life on this planet. It is possible that the soul’s purpose MIGHT be served by having the being incarnate into two bodies so that that being can experience what it might be like to meet itself. Same soul, two incarnations at the same time… it is one flame split in half: a twin flame. IF this happens then, yes, it seems that the soul will mostly split male/female so that there might occur a love relationship. This is so that the soul can teach itself about Oneness, about how to heal the differences within itself. This can be an important stepping stone to ascension.
BUT I’d like to stress some points from my perspective:
1. It is certainly not the norm. It is actually fairly rare.
2. Twin flame pairings are NOT the wondrous blissful romantic unions we are often lead to expect. Unfortunately there are a few voices in the spiritual community that are happy to tap into peoples loneliness and desire for “the perfect mate” and put out a bunch of nonsense about how you only have to find your twin flame and all will be perfect. This is just not so. We each have our own path to walk and each path is different. And MAAAAAAYBE there is a twin flame involved in this process. If there is it will certainly not be guaranteed to be any easier. In fact meeting yourself as your own love counterpart might be one of the most difficult relationships you could have. It all depends on where you are in your soul-progression. If one is really ready for a perfect and blissful relationship with oneself (and therefore a twin flame) then one is pretty much ready to leave this earth plane completely.
3. There are no hard and fast rules in the spirit world. People that say “it is always like THIS” just haven’t looked around enough. So, just as there might or might not be a twin flame there is absolutely no sense that this MUST be male/female. The issue to understand is that the divide will always be complementary in some other way due to the way the “flame” is split. There also does not HAVE to be only two halves. There could, theoretically be more than two of you here. But it’d take a brave (or very advanced) soul to try to balance all those many energies at one time!These are my thoughts. They are not doctrine… just my beliefs.
April 27, 2009 at 12:26 pm #11991GA LOVES YOUMemberI can give you first hand knowledge from experience that a Twin Flame is NOT always a blissful relationship. I have met my Twin Flame and honestly it has been a nightmare. We met when I first started this ascension process and I believe he entered my life to fully get me to ascend. I should really thank him but there has been a lot of hurt inside of me of how this had to be done. Even though I know this is how the divine plan works, there is still hurt inside me. I couldn’t imagine how the heavens would ever get us two together in this lifetime and I would be just fine with another romantic mate as I am not in love with my Twin…not even close.
I also see how they are very similar to how I was and I see patterns in our lives that are similar. I just played a different role, one that would not hurt another person…I could not have played their role nor would I want to…I would rather gone through what I have to get where I am at.
April 27, 2009 at 4:56 pm #11992ZingdadMemberVery interesting, GA. Your experience pretty much bears out what I know of this phenomenon. But you have piqued my curiosity and I wonder if you’d be willing to tell a little more about this story? Like, for example: How did you know for sure that this was your twin flame? And did your twin also know this? And how did you two find each other? How did it feel to meet? Why did the relationship not work?
I don’t mean to pry – only to learn- so please only engage as you might feel comfortable.
April 27, 2009 at 5:31 pm #11993GA LOVES YOUMemberHi Zingdad,
Let’s just say it was a very unusual way of meeting someone that only the “heavens” could have orchestrated but I will tell you this that I met him on the Internet and I have not met him in person. It is very complicated.
How did I know he was my Twin? When you ascend you just “know” things and there is nothing in our earth language or scientific world that can describe or explain this “knowing” as I know it. I know in my heart that he is my Twin Flame and in fact I can talk to his soul. His soul is SO LOVING and it is SO incredible the love that I feel for him in the spirit world but on earth he is not someone I would recognize as my Twin. There is a song by Eric Clapton called “Tears In Heaven”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AscPOozwYA8&feature=related
No he didn’t believe I was his Twin and in fact he doesn’t even believe in GOD or the spirit world for that matter. I guess we aren’t a match made in heaven in this lifetime. I guess I wasn’t very nice to him either as he got me SO mad and I let him have a couple times really good. I never did that before to a man but can I do it now especially if they deserve it. This is what happened…I fell madly in love with him and bottom line he didn’t love me. That was really hard on my heart. In the soul world we understand that we are just playing “parts” down on earth in this reality play. Unfortunately being in a human body with all these emotions and a mind your heart gets very hurt. I would LOVE to give up this memory of him in my head but the “heavens” just will not let me. I haven’t spoken or talked to him for over two years and honestly I want this bond to be ended as I WANT TO LOVE AND BE LOVED. I don’t know if that I can until he is out of mind and my heart.
I have conversations with GOD…it is a little more than that but that is basically what it is. GOD just tells me to trust him and believe. That one is really hard for me. One thing though is that I believe that energies can be in multiple bodies and who knows maybe my Twin’s energies will be too. That would be a really nice present because I know in my heart that “soul” is my eternal lover and best friend. I can’t wait to meet them in person and love them with my entire being.
April 27, 2009 at 7:01 pm #11994WillMember…here is something from another board that I visit… it is appropo…
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26 April 2009 Mark Huber on Twin Flames/Soul Mate Parameters
[The question for Mark was. Is our twin flame the exact opposite of us?
So if I’m outgoing, type A personality, would my flame be more quiet? Or
would there be some parts of us that are similar? To make a whole, I
just figured that we’d have to be opposite. Also, are we to meet our
twin flames soon? How do some people know who/what/where their twin
flames is/are? It’s interesting to hear that some people know their
twin flames are up on the ships waiting.]XXX
I would refer you to what I have previously shared on this subject which
goes way beyond the question below.http://www.crystali nks.com/soul_ mates.html (Located in Recommended
Reading)and
http://www.crystali nks.com/twin_ flame.html (Located in Recommended
Reading)NO! The Twin Flame is NOT opposite to it’s twin. Spiritual Twins are
different than physical twins but they do have some things in common.
They do mirror their twin. We are each a balanced composite of
differences and unity. Three points/possibilitie s which when balanced
birth a unity and emergence of an enlightened being. The 6 pointed star
of two over-lapping/ inter-locking triangles (star of David).Both triangles must be balanced within to effect opening of the sacred
heart. So, within our own being we have all of these potentials and must
stretch within to matter/spirit/ male/ female/negative/ positive to find
our own balance center. As we can stabilize in our spiritual nexus we
‘pass our initiatory steps’ and the heart opens and then expands that
loving balance to our sacred heart which enfolds our heart-mind and
connects us with our higher source alignment and aspects. This continues
until we are fully functioning, multi-dimensional consciously aware
ones.
Some call this the 3-fold flame of Ida, Central Sushumna and Pingala.
Subtle energetic nerve conduits. The white magician uses the kundalini
force as it is transmitted via the central spinal channel. When the
negative and positive forces of the body, which express themselves via
the ida and pingala nerve routes, are equilibrized, the forces can
ascend and descend by the central channel to and from the brain, passing
through the centers up the spine without hindrance. When this is the
case we have perfected soul expression in the physical man.
http://logos_ endless_summer. tripod.com/ id131.html (Located in
Recommended Reading)Opposites would be one person fully expressing in a negative vibration
and the other expressing in a fully positive vibration. As with a
tetter-totter, such would seem to neutralize each other, it doesn’t work
that way with twin-flames. In the human template we each contain male
and female complements; matter and spirit complements; Negative and
Positive energetic streams. When our overall balance achieves a 50.5%
positive synergy of all of these energies our heart opens and we ‘light
up our inner christmas tree’ and rise in vibration. This is being in
your ‘spiritual gyroscopic center’ so that any significant deviation
from balance is corrected automatically by a whole being flow of
unconditional loving assistance. That qualifies us for ascension. That
is called the “51%:49%Law/ Rule by which all soul progressions are
effected. As further spiritual awareness continues to raise that to
higher and higher positive percentage levels the refinement also
increases. There are corollaries to that law as well.
You might ask: “Well why is he going into all THAT?” The answer is,
that until you come into balance with those 4 aspect-complements, you
aren’t ready to meet your highest complement. There are many
complementary members of your soul family who you might well meet at any
point along the way. That is how we address karmic issues in 3D. 5D+ is
not about karmic corrections. It is about clarity, integrity,
authenticity, truth and balanced, loving beingness.
Each one has a very large number of soul mates and affinities that match
our vibration. There is only One Twin Flame. So you might begin to see
that we work out most of our karmic issues before we meet our Twin
Flame, and partner with many affinities before we meet our higher
vibratory soul-complement. It takes 3 chakras in resonance to sustain a
successful 3D relationship. It takes 5+ in resonance, to sustain a 5D+
Twin Flame relationship.The reason is that at higher levels of resonance each is such a perfect
reflection of the other soul that any imbalances become reflected to the
other instantly. You just can’t hide stuff from your higher complement.
In 5D+ everyone can see everyone else’s auric energy colors and
vibratory level and feel the effects immediately. So disharmony must be
dealt with immediately and proactively to clear that center.
If you are opposites, you might come together in 3D to assist one
another in reflecting those differences. Not so in 5D. That is the
level of complements. That is the level at which we may attract a Twin
Flame. If you think that everything will then be absolutely ducky, you
might be right, especially if you are truly ready,willing and able to do
the 24/7 work to take this into integrative 12 level upliftment for
both.
At 5D we can attract an equal who when merged forms a perfect union.
I was shown this and it was called the ‘fusion fire dance’, mystical
marriage, divine union and that is the point where god/goddess are
united by Creator as a trinitized wholeness. I was taken out into the
galaxy/universe for that experience as the scale on which this happens
is quite expansive and a full merger produces a new sun. Most if not
all ascending ones’, activating 12 strands in 12 dimensions will achieve
this. For the first time ever, it will be equally combining matter and
spirit.So we are going to enjoy a whole new way of expressing and staying in
balance and ecstasy 24/7. We have all experienced ascension by dropping
the physical. Now we will ascend our physical as well and we will be
able to continue to integrate and progress both, through all higher
dimensional refinements. That will affect the whole creation. So let’s
create some new and wondrous visions for our combined future consensus
expressions.
I don’t claim to be an academic authority on this. I’m just sharing
what I’ve experienced and been shown in this lifetime. One of these
experiences only involved 4 centers merging and was awesome. The other
included 12 strands and 12 dimensions of connection. I was told, 30
years ago, when one of these occurred in a lucid dream, that I would
indeed have a chance to experience this in this lifetime. That was 30
years ago, so I ain’t no spring chicken. So, come on ReJuv, let’s get
the reversal into robust action. I understand that 5/9-11 could
catalyze that nicely.Another related question, is about those in harmonious relationships
now. The higher aspects of each can easily work through the lower as
long as it is for the highest good of each. That means you can enjoy
your current relationship and still bring each of your higher aspects in
with out leaving the current relationship if that is a mutual soul
desire.
As to when, I think you can see that soul readiness is involved. I did
receive guidance that mine is on the ship and will walk off the ship
when the landings occur. I asked Mother Sekhmet if there were many of
us that would have this opportunity. She said that many millions are on
the ships waiting for our up-shift in vibration that will come with the
decloakings and then the landings.So whether you are male/female, get ready for some rewarding shifts out
of lack, depression, closed down higher centers and into expanding joy
and expanded awareness and radiance. Volunteer to be the pioneers of
the new golden age…’cuz truth be told, you really already are!Did I mention that as the ReJuv/Reversal completes, you will be able to
make any modifications you choose?
Normally, one complement stays on the ship/higher dimensions while the
other descends as a 3D incarnate. The one on the ship monitors all
aspects and helps when that is appropriate. As the 5D re-union is
attained, separation will not be necessary again.
I have vague memories of meeting soul-mates in various ship-board or
planetary visits. In addition, we are all merging with many of our own
aspects no matter what dimension or expression they currently express
through.
The scouring of our accumulated energy vehicles is so intense right now
because of the relative nearness, weeks or months, of a half-step
up-shift, which will occur at the moment of mass decloakings. Our diet,
behavior, attitudes, etc are up for upgrade modifications and the
spiritual showers/bath tubs are getting a lot of action to get us ready
for our light-suit emergence.
A couple of references will open up the subject matter for those who
wish to pursue it. There are even a small number of good novels about
these meetings. I can share that we will all be getting a lot more
assistance in preparing for these very critical relationships which are
a vital aspect of our ascension pathways.
So much will happen now in the major new energy waves of 5/9-11/2009.
It is vital that we allow these very high vibe energies to flow through
us, dissolving much of the residues of old 3D heaviness, guilt, shame
and unworthiness. We are each and all divine cosmic beings, loved
unconditionally for what we have and are accomplishing on behalf of
Self; our whole DNA lines and the Universe’s New Potential that is about
to break out of our pretend self-shell and reveal the hidden splendor.
Mark HuberApril 27, 2009 at 9:53 pm #11995GA LOVES YOUMemberHi Will,
Thank you for posting that. This is funny as GOD tells me that I am flying SO high and my Twin is just getting out of bed and stretching…good luck catching me.
Will I just reread your post which was incredible by the way. This stuck out to me…
“If you think that everything will then be absolutely ducky, you
might be right, especially if you are truly ready,willing and able to do
the 24/7 work to take this into integrative 12 level upliftment for
both.”Will, GOD told me that I did work 24/7 for almost three years and took that integrative 12 level upliftment for both of us…that is how much I love him in the soul world. I know I would die for him. That entire article resonates with my entire being. I know that twin flame love is like nothing I EVER experienced in my entire life…I am talking about feeling the love from the soul in the soul world, it overtakes your entire being.
If my Twin is a fast stretcher and not too grumpy maybe he will not be so bad after all. Maybe he is just not happy inside but he has this belief system that he was taught was true to him. Maybe I better keep my heart open to even him…time will tell.
Love to you Will,
GA
May 6, 2009 at 1:11 pm #11996GA LOVES YOUMemberI have been working on this Twin Flame bond that I can’t seem to break. No matter how hard I try, this person will NOT get out of my head or my heart. This morning I told their soul…my other half that I love them. If this is to manifest into the physical it not only will be an interesting journey it should be out of this world.
I know in the soul world that there is this “soul” that I am SO IN LOVE WITH. That LOVE is nothing like anything I ever experienced on earth. I would be a FOOL to not want it to manifest into the physical. It just is how this journey has been as it is not your typical “knight in shining armor” story. It is and was more painful than loving but as I have found out life purposes that might seem painful are truly loving.
GA
June 8, 2010 at 3:53 pm #11997GA LOVES YOUMember…
June 8, 2010 at 4:16 pm #11998GA LOVES YOUMemberThis long long road home was not merry and bright. Home is merry and bright though. It would be nice to have some human visitors that would not be so oppositional to this new “home” I am living in. Opposition isn’t safe…
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