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May 17, 2009 at 9:53 pm #6970
WandererMemberFull title should be “The risks of believing that the Mayan calendar ends December 21, 2012!” – By Johan Carl Calleman.
I would advice you all to read this document carefully as it pertains to a very significant date that we are all familiar with. It has shed some new light on me that I was not aware of before. Just to give you an idea of what the document is about, here’s the intro:
You can read the entire document here – http://www.mayanmajix.com/end_date.pdf (9 pages including diagrams)
About eight years ago John Major Jenkins and I had a debate about the meaning of the Mayan calendar end date focusing especially on whether the energies of the Long Count ends on October 28, 2011 or December 21, 2012. This still remains the most important question anybody interested in the “2012 phenomenon” is faced with, but while at the time the debate might have seemed theoretical, or even hairsplitting, it is now a question that has very significant and practical consequences as to how we relate to the future. While many would like to sweep the end date question under the rug or sit on the fence, no one can do so with their intellectual integrity intact. Since that debate Jenkins has appeared on a History Channel documentary where December 21 2012 is presented as a predetermined “doomsday” when the world is going to come to an end. I get quite a few letters, sometimes from young people that worry that the world will come to an end at this date since they have seen this documentary posted on YouTube. While most knowledgeable people would probably reject this way of presenting the Mayan calendar it is still important to ask the question who benefits from it. I feel there are indeed many people, also apart from the participants in such documentaries that benefit from the claim that the Mayan calendar ends December 21, 2012. Thus, I do not think that it is an accident that we do not hear of the October 28, 2011 date in public media. To begin with, as far as I know no one who adheres to the end date of October 28, 2011 has ever presented this as a predetermined doomsday and thus unduly associated the Mayan calendar with fear.
May 18, 2009 at 1:26 am #12448WillMember…what a coinkidoink Wanderer…
…I just logged on to bring this same post…
May 18, 2009 at 2:05 pm #12449WandererMemberNice, what did you think Will?
Personally I see now that a lot of interesting stuff is coming our way by Oct 2011, which is a little over a year before 2012. It seems to me that Carl Calleman is right in thinking not many put too much attention to the October date. I know I didn’t even though I had already heard about it in a couple of lectures I have watched.
Like this lecture for example:
Timeline to 2012 by Ivan Stein
He discusses the October 28, 2011 date on part two. He mentions this date as being the time when humanity will have reached its highest state of consciousness. This lecture is based on Carl Callemans work as well. It’s similar to what Ian Lunghold would lecture about.
May 18, 2009 at 2:57 pm #12450WillMember…my feelings are that there are many variables to this ascension equation…
…in the scope of eternity, what is one year ?…
…where is the precise moment of the exact center of the galactic plane ?…
…as to the debate, I don’t possess enough data to make a judgement… I am too busy surfing the wave to really give it much mind…
…my feelings are that we are deep enough into the photon belt to feel the full effects… one could try to argue the exact minute… which nano second ?… by this point now what does it matter ?…
…when we tip the scale of critical mass it won’t matter… could be tommorrow… or 2010…
…how about you Wanderer ?… what are your feelings ?…
May 18, 2009 at 5:34 pm #12451WandererMemberIn the scope of infinity one year is not even a blink of an eye. My feeling is that we are getting very close to reaching critical mass as far as awareness is concerned. For example, a year ago I would not have thought that CNN would be having a press conference related to the Xconference. Some of the things Steven Basset suggests at the end of that press conference gives me goosebumps. He suggests to the Obama Administration that the announcement of an ET presence be made by the end of May! UFO Hunters on the History channel seems to be covering some really cool stuff as well – things that I’ve only heard from whistle blower interviews. With more and more things like this happening, I get the feeling we’re in for a very interesting year.
With that said I agree with what Carl Calleman says in regards to humanity reaching its highest state of consciousness by 2011. It feels like we’re moving in that direction with all the happenings I’m noticing around me. It’s very exciting and I am trying as hard as I can to concentrate in the NOW as opposed to daydreaming of what will happen on 2012. Not that that is a bad thing. I happen to like daydreaming of how beautiful our world will be in the near future, but concentrating on the NOW is what I am trying to focus on – living in the moment and making the best of that moment.
May 21, 2009 at 7:59 pm #12452ZingdadMemberVery, very interesting read!
For myself I am not going to get tripped up in the minutiae of this exact date versus that one. I think that is irrelevant. All we really have is the NOW, isn’t it? And in that sense I think this article gets it very right. “The Shift” isn’t something that is coming… it isn’t something we must wait for. Don’t expect it to happen to you. It is here, it is now and you are happening to IT! It is in every decision we each take, in every choice we make. It is in our beliefs and attitudes. We are the ascension… not some date somewhere ahead on the calendar. And that is the part of this article that worked for me. He is talking about this being an ongoing process of cyclically incoming light. That is true for me. Waiting for end 2012 to THEN suddenly begin to do something is missing the point. But for me it is just as erroneous to wait for some point near the end of 2011. So hammering on and on about it not being 2012 doesn’t really help his cause in my humble opinion. But other than that this was a really cool article, I thought.
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