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October 10, 2008 at 6:18 pm #6528AnnanMember
Later i went to a specialist & he told me i was infected in the sinus
by some kind of fungus…In my own ‘research’ of events i came to my conclusions that all point out to ‘chemtrails’.At this point i’d like invite you to examine this term.
Dear friends!
I would like to point out something here, and that is the significance of chem-trails (Chem- as from Chemicals), also known as the quart-of-a-semi-plausible phenomenon – derived from what is termed contrails aka the hot condense fog made from larger airline engines.
I write this for the attention of Alanas parents and family, if they are supposed to read this thread – and the postings herin. What BigfeetE chooses to write in this thread is his choice, and I would not like to interfere with his choices by adressing BigfeetE in this post. So as much as he chooses to let this be a part of attention in his message – I adress this to your attention Alanas family, as in regard for my interest in your and especially Alanas upliftment in these times.
There is written much about so called chemtrails around the internet, and it is part of what is termed as conspiracy theory. Contrails are as I mentioned above, the fog from airplanes, and those that are promoting conspiracy theories state that it is merely dangerous chemicals that are sprayed all over the earth – from airplanes. This means, in all simplicity, that they mean that someone evil – wants to destruct the whole planet so they can be alone here – and have a little party alone without all us other. This because themselves have some very smart medicines to use, so that this chemical spraying will not affect those that are putting this into action.
This is something that is unreasonabe and totally farout, only spreading, of unreasoned fear. I could write a couple of pages about the validity and logic around the so called chemtrails – but it is outmost a total waste of time. And please believe me – I have PLENTY of time, aswell as love for Alana to do it. But it is useless beyond words – simply due to that this is nothing to gain fear about at all – other than the fear one self chooses to afflict oneselves with by believing this theory. If there still are questions and a concern about chemtrails, in regards of the content of this thread, I would be more than happy to contribute on a PM request. Beyond that I say no more, as far as Alana is in all our prayers and thoughts every day – and we see her as the little rock-star see might just be some day. 🙂
So, in the name of our creator god, I again pray for Alanas good health and vigour – and Alanas family in total and your upliftment in these times.
Much love to Alana
Annan the NordicOctober 10, 2008 at 9:33 pm #9841ShyloLoveKeymaster@Annan wrote:
Dear friends!
I would like to point out something here, and that is the significance of chem-trails (Chem- as from Chemicals), also known as the quart-of-a-semi-plausible phenomenon – derived from what is termed contrails aka the hot condense fog made from larger airline engines.
Hi Annan,
I am considering moving this post into a new forum for Chemtrails as I am not sure it is really appropriate here. There are many on this site that know of Chemtrails, including myself. My view is that it IS happening, and that much of it is not healthy to mankind. However, I am NOT taking a fear stance of this. I also think that some of what they are doing is “for our own good” in that they are doing this secretly, but attempting to fix some problems with our atmosphere and such. I think there are many reasons for it. Bottom line is, it is very possibly occurring and very possibly causing some health problems. Sometimes these nasty things ARE in fact happening, and we do no justice to anyone by sweeping them under the rug so we “don’t fear” sometimes it’s okay to fear things until you’ve found understanding in them…it’s all a part of the process of finding knowledge and truth…we don’t always agree with it or like it, but yet it exists… doesn’t mean we spread fear by spreading knowledge…we spread the knowledge, then allow each person to integrate the information, go through their fear processes (if that is what they need to do) then, once it is understood they will eventually find their way home to love on their OWN path.
If you would like to debate the existence of chemtrails, it is not for this forum.
I know you are an extremely loving individual, and that you posted this directly from your own heart. I respect and appreciate that, but please know that many people on this site might take offense to your post due to their knowing Chemtrails are a real phenomena. Each is entitled to their opinions as well as you dear Annan!
SO, let’s talk about Chemtrails and the validity of them in another thread.
Big love!
AnnuOctober 10, 2008 at 10:01 pm #9842AnnanMemberDear Annu!
I see your point, for sure. And I guess you see my point aswell in adressing: in a post where it is asked for a prayer for a very sick child – and by that very concerned parents, which is also most possibly directed to this thread – and it is mentioned Chemtrails as a possible cause? What??
I do not have any problem with this at all, the chemtrails nor any other. I do not have any fear, nor any reason to fear neither any reason to spread fear. If this is a forum Annu, that needs to be spared for reasonable questions around fear based knowledge, put up in a random topic – in this instance, about poison beeing spread from airplanes, in a sick childs prayer question – well, that does not need much more of a comment from my-self.
I rest my case by that, and ask those that eventually need to be spared – be spared!
Much love
Annan the NordicOctober 10, 2008 at 10:27 pm #9844ShyloLoveKeymasterand it is mentioned Chemtrails as a possible cause? What??
This is valid, based on the posters personal experience.
If this is a forum Annu, that needs to be spared for reasonable questions around fear based knowledge
“Fear based knowledge” is still knowledge. This kind person offered up (based on personal experience) that it could be a possible cause for Alana’s lung disease. I agree, it’s a possible cause…just like the possibility that there are hundreds more possible causes…(including personal choice, emotional trauma…on and on) I think the gist here is that it was offered in love, not to spread fear. Opinions on Chemtrails should be put in their own forum, whether for or against.
THIS thread is not for debating the validity of them or that of the experiences to do with them…let’s do that in a Chemtrail thread. You can go ahead and start one if you like, that would be great!
We cannot be responsible how people receive information…we offer it up for illumination and bring awareness…then we kindly remind each individual that their response to information is their own, however, they are Immortal creator beings and can choose to feel Love not Fear. But each to their own path forward…fear is only an emotion on the path home to love…we eventually learn to embrace the fear and Love it too!…..that’s my opinion on the matter anyhow. 😉
Annan, I know you to be a being of immense love, this is not in anyway singling you out…I am just wanting threads to stay on topic and when a debating point is brought up that it should go in it’s own section. Debate is GOOD!
Let’s move this conversation to a new thread shall we? Let’s give Alana all the love she needs to find her path through her experience with this illness and that of her family. ((((((((LOVE TO ALANA)))))))
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Love to you all as well,
AnnuOctober 10, 2008 at 10:45 pm #9845AnnanMemberDear Annu!
I have said what I have to say in my last post and before that, and do not have any more to add. Beyond that, I have no interest in using any energy to discuss the validity of chemtrails the phenomenon, in any forum nor other communication with fellow beeings – beyond what I allready have stated in a single previous post other place, in this forum. So I suggest my postings in “Help needed please” after BigfeetE – until this very message, is erased.
If moved, to a separate Chemtrail discussion thread – in order to continue some kind of discussion, it is not for me to follow that up. In terms of this – my suggestion is to delete, as above mentioned.
Much love
Annan the NordicOctober 10, 2008 at 11:56 pm #9843ShyloLoveKeymasterDearest Annan,
I cannot delete a thread such as this, because it is like censorship! In this case, I think it would be MOST healing for us both to share information about the things known as Chemtrails. You’ve obviously come to some conclusions regarding this phenomena due to some information you have found and perhaps your own detailed investigation into it yourself. If so, I think in the interest of dispelling fear and misinformation about such things, it would be loving of you to share this Light with the book, so that others who are not so sure are able to gain understandings from your experience. I will in turn, share my Light on the subject and any evidence I have found to indicate it is something occurring.
There is always a bigger picture. In this case, it could be that there are positives and negatives to the practice of “Chemtrailing”. In the end, once viewing this from a higher perspective, one can see that this has it’s place in experience just like everything else does.
I guess I take issue just a little bit, when others experiences (with ANYTHING – UFO’s, ET’s, Spirits, Channeling, et al) are so easily dismissed. You basically say that discussion on Chemtrails is “promoting conspiracy theories” as well as saying that “contrails are as I mentioned above, the fog from airplanes”. There is a whole lot of evidence to the contrary that you ignore in order to come to that conclusion. Are not UFO’s also considered to be “conspiracy theories” because our government is not opening sharing information with respect to them?
And this:
This means, in all simplicity, that they mean that someone evil – wants to destruct the whole planet so they can be alone here – and have a little party alone without all us other. This because themselves have some very smart medicines to use, so that this chemical spraying will not affect those that are putting this into action.
Unfortunately, there IS in fact a large group of people intent on reducing the worlds population to a manageable level (150 million or something like that). Some of this “evil” is really real stuff and is not well known on this planet yet…that is changing with sites like this. HOWEVER, when one takes the higher viewpoint (the bigger picture) they can see how everything is always perfect. This will be a most incredible way for those in the KNOW to create something better for Earth. That’s part of what this website is all about, a big part actually. We don’t sweep anything under a rug and say “if it makes you afraid then we don’t acknowledge it, everything is Love Love Love no Fear” Instead we say, “Here is the scary monster, take a GOOD hard look at it, FEEL your fear and utilize your fear process as learning gifts…..understand why it needs to be there to scare you, (your own personal experience dictates why you require this fear process) then no longer fear that which you don’t understand because NOW you understand it you are able to Love it then have Joy in seeing that the monster isn’t all that scary when illuminated under the light of Truth” ….Or something to that effect! 🙄 😀
Now I say to you Annan, that Chemtrails are a very real phenomena to many people on this planet who have seriously and scientifically investigated them. It’s very easy to say they are simply “contrails”…but something bigger IS going on. Have you seen the Book of Light’s Chemtrail Library?
Now I have spent enough energy explaining my stance on this and I do so to spread light on things such as this. Illuminating knowledge is what the Book of Light is all about! Chemtrails, Illuminati, secret societies and “evil” all exist here on Earth, if we shine a bright Light on these dark corners of experience we find they no longer frighten us….they no longer have a hold on us and no longer are able to control us!! It is our THOUGHTS & EMOTIONS that matter in the end, because we create the reality we experience as a Universal Collective, we are able to CHANGE these “evils” through understanding why they are there and where they come from…shining a Light. We are all very powerful creator beings, we need only to make a choice about what we will create and do so from a loving position. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ 🙂
Thank you for reading Angel-Annan…if you did read this far. 😀 😆 I know I babble on sometimes in text…you know I don’t actually talk this much in real life. 😳
Love & Hugs,
AnnuOctober 11, 2008 at 4:23 pm #9846AnnanMemberDear Annu!
Well-well…..hehe….I have read the whole of your post Annu 😀
So, to parallell what we have been writing in PM, I will with this post like to sum up, why and what – is the reason that this is my last post on chemtrails.
But as I have stated both openly in topic and in now several PMs between us, I am not to put my energy in discussions around the theory of chemtrails. I ask, to be believed, that I could go on almost endless, to write an analytical essay of the plausability of chemtrail infliction in our global community. And by that weave in the sosioanthropological implicatons, that could or could not be created, due to reasonable facts put forward by both pros and cons.
Let me make a very simple explanation on Annans way of inter-acting in his surroundings – and by that make an explanation of my point above. I do not believe in anything I have not felt with my own senses. Nor do I believe in it either, if it does not cohort with my different sensous endowements. BUT, and there is a substantial BUT. As an example: If anyone was to come forth to me and say that they are haunted by a ghost. Well, I do not believe in ghosts before I have experienced one myself. But I believe in the person stating that she or he is haunted by a ghost. That does not imply that I believe in the ghost that haunts my forthcomming friend. But I believe in my friend, and his or her experience and welfare, and by that offer my advice in sound reasoning, to why this occurs to this person specifically, and not occures as in normality to everybody else.
So. I suppose that this can stand as my last word on chemtrails for now. Not that necessarily ghosts have anything with chemtrails to do, but that was at this moment what came to my mind to use as an example.
So. Let us by that on my part say: I´ll be back – when the chemtrails haunts me 😎 😆
Much love
Annan the NordicOctober 14, 2008 at 7:12 am #9847ShyloLoveKeymasterWell-well…..hehe….I have read the whole of your post Annu 😀
Thank you Annan 🙂
I am not to put my energy in discussions around the theory of chemtrails. I ask, to be believed, that I could go on almost endless, to write an analytical essay of the plausability of chemtrail infliction in our global community. And by that weave in the sosioanthropological implicatons, that could or could not be created, due to reasonable facts put forward by both pros and cons.
I would be SERIOUSLY interested in reading this analytical essay….I would rather read the essay then “believe” you…even if it is endless…but I like to read so. 😛
So. Let us by that on my part say: I´ll be back – when the chemtrails haunts me 😎 😆
Well, all I can say to that is:
“LOOK UP”
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Here’s a couple nice examples of what I see around here when I look up…
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Anyways…it’s all good and thanks for playing the illumination game. 😉
Love!
AnnuOctober 14, 2008 at 4:40 pm #9848Bigfeet EMemberHello Annan & Annu,
I have waited to go into this subject as i was not up to another endless play of energysoaking discussion.
When Annan PM’ed me, stating his discomfort about my post, i was disappointed a bit by this.
My reasons about my post is very well stated by Annu. Big thanks for that 🙂
I can very well understand the point of view non-believers take as they have not yet come into direkt contact about its dangers.
Safe to say i almost lost my life surrounding the effects. In the hospital i was bleeding from the longs, as wer many elderly patient battling for their lives, i couldnt even get a bed in the proper department, overloaded as it was. Pryor to that i had developped a bronchitis (wich occured frequently over last 3 to 4 years) wich could not be stopped with a basket full of al kinds of medicaments, for about 5 weeks on a row. Just kept getting worse & worse until i was so cramped up with pain & drugs, the worst kind of dark sticky saliva preventing every breath,etc., that i was ripe for the emergency room.
On top of that i expirienced an emotional blow with a girl who backstabbed me togheter with the fact i was being evicted from my rental house for dark reasons.So i had bin scrubbin & cleaning the house while i was that sick. My boss from work was accusing me of sicknessfraude, so they were reluctant to pay me so needed cash from sick-leave at that moment in time.
It was kinda a living hell, i can tell you that… 😡
After only a week of hospitalisation i was back on my feet, discharged with no explaination about it’s origin.They just didn’t knew they say.
Later on i went to that specialist, he suggested i was bin involved in some kind of waterdisaster, and i told him that couldn’t be the case.
He found a black water-fungus(bit like the ones you find on walls of moisty houses) inside my sinusses and told me it was very dangerous.A few months before i was introduced to the chemtrail-phenomenon and was slightly intrigided but didnt gave it so much tought. But this intro was
no coincidence, it was brought on my path for a very good reason i know now. As i digged in, after my illness,i came to the horrible conclusion that this was REAL and goin on for a long time. The symptoms fitted like a charm & as i came to a lot of other findings and ‘coincidenses’ that my conclusion was grounded on facts & feelings. No one, NO ONE can ever convince me this is a hoax or conspiracy-theory. It’s not a theory at all.
As of today i (and lots of people) still have to battle this thing. Spraying goes around for 3 times a week. But i am prepared now !!
Colloidal silver works to keep the attacks at pace : http://www.all-natural.com/silver-1.html and yeah…it works !
This is just 1 link, there are several.At the forum i usually post : http://www.niburu.nl/ there is a huge section about chemtrails with numorous discussions, lots of people who know and also a few hardcase debunkers at work (doing a bad job if you ask me 😉 )Feel free to wander over there, it is dutch… but there are a lot of pic’s also.
Or better yet, investigate yourself at lots of english sites.Annan, i hope from the bottom of my hart you will never be affected by its fall-out.
If you ever see them and you have the chance to stay inside, pls do so & close all windows. Don’t really know where you live in the north, so maybe the’re closed allready…That’s it for now, need some evening-dinner.
My best,Bigfeet E 😉
October 17, 2008 at 2:26 am #9849NightfableMemberHey, Big Feet E! I just bought myself some Colloidal Silver today and am already planning on buying my own generator, all thanks to your post and link! I will definitely use this as means for protection for me and my family, someone’s been leaving chemtrails over my house and I don’t feel powerless anymore!!! 😀
October 17, 2008 at 10:02 am #9850Bigfeet EMemberGlad i could be of some help 😀
October 19, 2008 at 8:24 pm #9851GaianMemberI really didn’t know there was any difference between contrails and chemtrails until I saw this thread. I just thought they were synonomous. Now, I don’t know what to think – but that generally only makes me think more…
I read this thread about two weeks ago, thought it was interesting and began observing the skies. I live in a large metropolitan area in a suburb of Phoenix, Arizona. There is much air traffic – Sky Harbor International Airport, Luke Air Force Base and numerous (5 or 6) regional airports. A lot of air traffic, all the time.
So, two weeks ago I began sky watching for contrails and chemtrails specifically. For 10 straight days, only contrails. The skies were brilliantly clear and if ever there was a cloud, it was small and well defined. Then, about three days ago, the chemtrails began. As I write, the skies are criss-crossed with chemtrails. I don’t know what is making them. I did see an airliner leave a contrail and the difference is obvious.
My rational mind tells me that if these chemtrails were just related to regular air traffic, everyday would look the same with regard to chemtrails vs contrails. That doesn’t seem to be the case.
This morning, I did a quick search on youtube for chemtrails and filtered only for videos added today and I found this (read the comment, too!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOTWRdjpFHwOkay, something else. I had a dream. I actually woke up from the dream this morning and this is all I can remember: I was outside and these orbs that resembed soap bubbles were descending, only they weren’t irridescent like soap bubbles. They were like little earths – only I didn’t see any land masses. They were earth-blue with wispy clouds.
I’m not ready to draw any conclusions here, but this is generally how I ‘get’ things. There is something within me saying these things are correlated. I don’t know how or why, but I’m hopeful that more ‘information’ is forthcoming.
I just wanted to share because I’m really ‘buzzing’ over it…
Namaste’,
Gaian
October 19, 2008 at 8:57 pm #9852WillMember…a good friend of mine administrates …
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com
…this is a good place to go and school yourself on what is up…(get it…UP…lol)…
October 19, 2008 at 9:03 pm #9853GaianMemberMuch appreciated, Will! I’m checking it out now…
Namaste’,
Gaian
October 29, 2008 at 6:10 pm #9854re9love9u9tionMemberThe OP asked for help & i have been where they are.
once i became aware of chemtrails as a reality, i felt very sad, distressed & could not believe someone would act in this way. i also felt powerless to do anything about it & became fearful of the intentions of those behind them & the effects they were having on us all.
One day in despair, i sat on my step & spontaneously decided i would try to do something about it.
I closed my eyes & started breathing deeply. I visualised white light & asked for help to clean & transmute whatever was in the sky. I felt silly but something told me to just try. I used my consciousness to make it better. Not through fear but with love. I focused on how I wanted things to be not how they were. & then I saw that I wasn’t the only consciousness that was doing this! there were lots of people doing this & i felt happy!
…& you know what? in 30 mins the sky started to clear. i am serious, it just changed… where there was chemical soup, there was blue sky!
i just laughed & then i sent a text to my wife, knowing i sounded mad!
a few days later i was on a chemtrail forum & discovered other people were clearing the skies around them just by their focused intent to offer their consciousness as a conduit for light.
you don’t need an orgone device but if it helps you to feel empowered get one…
you are the most powerful cloudbuster ever invented.
you don’t need to be afraid. just focus & visualise. some people use music to meditate to…
i am talking about 18 months ago & chemtrails are the exception here in leicester where i live in the UK.
please try this if you are reading this. i don’t really think it matter about your method, what i think is important is your intent & focus on bringing light to do whatever needs to be done.
Annu, you are totally right about knowledge & fear having a place & Annan I see where you are coming from man.
I just wanted people to know that they can do something about this.
IT WORKED FOR ME & I AIN”T NO LIGHTWORKER!
Please let me know if anyone wants more info or if it works for them too…
Safe.
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