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  • #6371
    Ascend2luv
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    When I first found out about the world (around November last year) especially the way we have been lied to 9/11 and all the Illuminati and new world order info I was really afraid and scared I thought my family and myself were doomed and that all I could foresee was death and suffering – I know now that fear is the weapon that has always kept the human race controlled. I don’t even know how I found out love but I just knew deep down there was hope and I found it … and its confirmed in positive people and sites like this.

    I have seen and heard a number of people talking about making “communities” discussing plans for buying land and having a hub of people who are like minded all living together almost as if they want to cut themselves off from the rest of humanity. Personally I just feel that this is a form of escapism and feel as if its fear that drives people to want to run away and hide. I have a friend of mine who is proposing to run away to Canada (we are in UK) taking her children with her to “hide” in a place she considers to be a “safe zone”. Shes told me she has had visions about all the awful things that will happen to London in 2012 and basically anyone who stays here will die. I had started to cut off from her because she was overbearing and left me feeling negative and would all me panicking over some vision she had had her fear was contagious and her children are in fear too. She made me feel so drained and negative. She is intelligent and has been studying spirituality for years yet she lives in fear! She would often talk down to me saying I wouldn’t understand what she knew 😮 – My understanding if someone truly is so informed why on earth would they be fearful? –

    I was friends with her for a number of years. She had had problems with her computer I have often helped her out including financially when I could. She had also lied to me (her children would sometimes innocently let things slip). Recently My partner (gary) is good with computers and we tried to fix her computer which seemed to be working fine. We loaned her a laptop so that she could still have net access. I recently asked for the laptop back as it belongs to my daughter. I have now written the laptop off but occasionally I feel really angry and negative when I think about her. I have no room in my life for this type of negative vibration. Can anyone let me know how I can lose this negativity when I start to think about how she has abused my friendship? I will post below a copy of her reply when I emailed her to ask for the laptop back. She wasnt answering her phone so I had to email her 😥

    I think I just have to be open with you here. There isn’t much point these days in pussyfooting around, so i’m going to be completely honest. I had set my old pc up, clearing out old files ready to transfer from disc the laptop files, using th monitor on the laptop. I had not yet purchased discs or monitor, but was preparing for the new set up. This was approx 10 days after we spoke about it the first time. Then my tower, after only a couple of hours switched on, started doing it’s old tricks. Switching off then not wanting to turn on again. Happened every few days then wouldn’t work for days, nothing, dead. It is my opinion it is the motherboard, perhaps processor. I don’t know, it’s had this flaw from day one and it has never been remedied.
    I know you spent money on it for me, in an honest attempt to get me up and running again, so I was certainly not going to nag Gary over it again, or yourself, partly because I didn’t want to hear “We’ve already done all we can” and partly because I was already very aware of this fact.
    Now. This is how it is. I need my internet, it is a matter of life or death for my family and I right now. I aim to be out by early summer next year at the latest. I am currently learning everything I need to know about plant life in the area I am heading to, natural remedies, basic survival techniques, aswell as allowing the kids their time to socialise and make their videos. It is the only socialization they get right now, the area is worse by the day, I want them to feel *normal* for a while. They know what’s ahead. But ofcourse, that is not essential, but it is truth never the less.They won’t have this technology for long, and neither will I. My networking capacity is my lifeline at the moment. I do not have the funds to purchase my own, I am still waiting on a social fund loan as I was turned down for the grant, and that is for a washing machine. Handwashing is taking up too much time, and although good practice, is preventing me from clearing the shit out of the house and taking stock of what can be sold, which is pretty much just my few bits of art, Roo’s guitar, crystals etc. and what can be left. Anything will count, I need to get the plane fare together & a couple of k, and right now I have no idea how i’ll do it. But we MUST leave here. I know if we stay we will not make it, and with foresight I have been blessed and I won’t knock a gifthorse in the mouth. All is for reason.
    I believed you when you said we must settle our affairs at home first, build up our place and set down our roots. It inspired me, and I started organising and planning for a better life here, but then I had a week of dreams and revelations, I foresaw the trouble with Georgia, I saw what is looming and what is going to happen here. I realized how short time is now and how we have to make the choice to stay and probably not survive, or go, either to a higher calling, for survival reasons or both. For me it is both. I am thinking of my kids more than I ever have right now, I realize what a mother is, and how my responsibility to them, nomatter what, is to keep them as safe as I can. They can’t do it alone. I won’t play god with them and ultimately decide that they should take their chances, not with what I have seen in store for London.
    I cannot return the laptop until I either have a means to repair the other or buy another, so at the very latest it will be returned within the year. I’m sorry for putting it so plainly Caz, I love you as a sister, but my children come first. As you do things for your kids that don’t necessarily correlate with your own self made ethics, then so must I.
    I hope this isn’t enough to have you judge me wrongly for my actions. This is not intended to abuse your friendship or disrespect you as a person. This is necessity in my mind, completely. The little material things that don’t usually mean so much in the grand scheme of things sometimes have a tendancy to be the difference between fucked and saved. Just as a farmer with his leg trapped in a combine harvester will die if he doesn’t have his penknife to cut the leg free. Or just as a stranded motorist in a frozen extreme may die from exposure if he left his phone at home.
    I have the ability here to do something right for once, and althought to you it doesn’t seem like it, to me it *feels* it. Again I remind you that I am being as open as I can, i’m sorry if it causes problems with Gary, but for the record, you have done so much for him, he really has no reason to bitch other than in principle.
    I would have tried to appeal to your compassion on this Caz, but I really can’t risk the alternative. I need my contacts, there isn’t time for libraries or snail mail.
    You owe me nothing other than your understanding. There is a time coming when these petty differences will mean shit. We must work together. A luxury is something that we can do without, an essential is something that is crucial to our health and welfare.

    .

    How do I move on from this? – to be honest I still care about her but she refuses to listen to positive messages and concentrates on spreading messages about FEMA camps etc. etc. I do this occassionally but try to tell people not to be afraid that that a lot of what is out there is propaganda and designed to keep us in a state of vibrational fear.

    #8770
    Teeka
    Member

    Dear Ascend2luv,

    You need to just let it go. As you increase your own vibrations, it will become harder to be around people still operating in lower energies–the disparity will become more evident. As far as the computer, let it go and focus on the things in your life to be grateful for.—-Teeka

    #8771
    opalescent
    Member

    Yuck. I’ve had friends like that, the energy-sucking vampire kind. The ego, white-knuckled, won’t let go… so you must.

    But, the computer still has tendrils of your energy connected to it. Writing it off means cutting those connections… but not before you can, if you want, send a blast of light to it and “program” the computer to reprogram everything that is done with it to eliminate the negative and accentuate the positive, as the old song goes… This is “renegade” lightwork at its best, if you can see it that way 😉

    And be glad you’re free :mrgreen:

    #8772
    opalescent
    Member

    Installing Love

    A call comes through on the customer service line.

    Customer Service Rep: Yes, Ma’am, how can I help you today?

    Customer: Well, after much consideration, I’ve decided to install divine love. Can you guide me through the process?

    CS Rep: Yes, I can help you. Are you ready to proceed?

    Customer: Well, I’m not very technical, but I think I’m ready to install now. What do I do first?

    Computer DoctorCS Rep: The first step is to open your HEART. Have you located your HEART ma’am?

    Customer: Yes I have, but there are several other programs running right now. Is it okay to install while they are running?

    CS Rep: What programs are running ma’am?

    Customer: Let’s see, I have PAST-HURT.EXE, LOW-ESTEEM.EXE, GRUDGE.EXE, and RESENTMENT.COM DIVINE LOVE.com running right now.

    CS Rep: No problem. LOVE will gradually erase PAST-HURT.EXE from your current operating system. It may remain in your permanent memory, but it will no longer disrupt other programs. LOVE will eventually overwrite LOW-ESTEEM.EXE with a module of its own called HIGH- ESTEEM.EXE. However, you have to completely turn off GRUDGE.EXE and RESENTMENT.COM. Those programs prevent LOVE from being properly installed. Can you turn those off ma’am?

    Customer: I don’t know how to turn them off. Can you tell me how?

    CS Rep: My pleasure. Go to your Start menu and invoke FORGIVENESS.EXE. Do this as many times as necessary until GRUDGE.EXE and RESENTMENT.COM have been completely erased.

    Customer: Okay, done. LOVE has started installing itself automatically. Is that normal?

    CS Rep: Yes. You should receive a message that says it will reinstall for the life of your HEART. Do you see that divine message?

    Customer: Yes I do. Is it completely installed?

    CS Rep: Yes, but remember that you have only the base program. You need to begin connecting to other Heart’s in order to get the upgrades.

    Customer: Oops. I have an error message already. What should I do?

    CS Rep: What does the message say?

    Customer: It says “ERROR 412 – PROGRAM NOT RUN ON INTERNAL COMPONENTS.” What does that mean?

    CS Rep: Don’t worry ma’am, that’s a common problem. It means that the LOVE program is set up to run on external HEARTS but has not yet been run on your HEART. It is one of those complicated programming things, but in non-technical terms it means you have to “LOVE” your own machine before it can “LOVE” others.

    Customer: So what should I do?

    CS Rep: Can you pull down the directory called “SELF-ACCEPTANCE”?

    Customer: Yes, I have it.

    CS Rep: Excellent. You’re getting good at this.

    Customer: Thank you.

    CS Rep: You’re welcome. Click on the following files and then copy them to the “MYHEART” directory: FORGIVE-SELF.DOC, REALIZE-WORTH.TXT, and ACKNOWLEDGE-LIMITATIONS.DOC. The system will overwrite any conflicting files and begin patching any programming. Also, you need to delete SELF-CRITIC.EXE from all directories, and to make sure it is completely gone and never comes back, you will need to empty your recycle bin.

    Customer: Love HeartGot it. Hey! My HEART is filling up with new files. How divine it is now. SMILE.MPG is playing on my monitor right now and it shows that PEACE.EXE, and CONTENTMENT.COM are copying themselves all over my HEART. Is this normal?

    C Rep: Sometimes. For others it takes a while, but eventually everything gets downloaded at the proper time. So, LOVE is installed and running. You should be able to handle it from here. One more thing before I go.

    Customer: Yes?

    CS Rep: LOVE is freeware. Be sure to give it and its various modules to everybody you meet. They will in turn share it with other people and they will return some similarly cool modules back to you.

    Customer: I will. Thanks for your help. By the way, what’s your name?

    CS Rep: You can call me the Divine Cardiologist, also known as The Great Physician. Most people feel all they need is an annual checkup to stay heart-healthy, but the manufacturer suggests a schedule of daily maintenance for maximum efficiency.

    #8773
    UFOBelieve
    Member

    Rofl Opal that customer-service-thing was awesome. Since I’m very much into computers and all stuff connected to this, this was really a nice way to sum it up for me!! :ugeek:

    (Edit:) @ascend2luv:

    To be honest, while reading this, her arguments felt really convincing, but as you said, there ARE positive messages out there and if she refuses to listen to them, then this is her choice. You can’t choose for her, she has do choose herself. I guess there were certain circumstances that made her have those bad visions (maybe because she was open to it). I guess it would be of no help to tell her that nothing is written in stone, because she focuses on this one possible outcome, and I guess only the fact that this outcome is POSSIBLE may be enough for her to consider it so important that she has to react to it and leave altogether.
    Well I guess there are moments in some friendships where you just have to realize, our ways are different. She also said it, everything has a reason, and her specific reasons led her down a different path than yours. You tried to persuade her, it didn’t work, I guess at this point you just have to let her go. The next step may would be to seriously and honestly wish her all the best, I guess you already do to some extent, because you were friends.

    This is what I can offer. I hope it helps.

    #8774
    Ascend2luv
    Member

    Opalescent what a great reply and how very apt – especially in view of the laptop 😆 !

    I have read your post and will read it a couple of times more so it sinks in – as there is a very important message there.

    I really do appreciate your views and advice. One of the greatest difficulties I sometimes have is that in my day to day life I become distracted and react in a knee jerk way (its difficult to silence my pesky ego) – I just felt really awful over all this so I knew that my “bad feelings” alone were telling me move on. I had been backing off from the friendship prior to this and being straightforward and honest when the calls for help came I just started to say no. The laptop was my 12 yr old daughters who had generously let my friend use it (as she could use my pc) – she is an absolute angel – i have had to to to explain all this to her and she was upset and confused. One of the things that really angered me that in the email she was explaining about her children’s happiness even though she knew laptop was my daughter’s.

    BUT

    I am going to move on from this. I posted it here as I just wanted get it off my chest and I will have a little chat with my daughter later (we have already decided to buy some pc bits and gary will build her a brand new pc for xmas). I will just have to tell her that sometimes people do things that hurt others because THEY believe its right. Its difficult but I need to help her understand and overcome this too. We can help each other – the really sad thing is that my daughter and her girls were friends and they are ignoring her too. They wont even answer the door to us now – the last time gary went round there to pick up a camera that she also had and she got really angry at the kids when he left he could hear her screaming at them saying “dont answer the F****ing door!” – he said he felt sorry for them :(.

    thanks again everyone. I am taking your advice on board. I do so want to stay on a higher vibration and be positive and empowered but every now and then these tests come along I suppose its all a learning curve.

    Its great to be amongst people who are so positive and upbeat.

    Light and Love to all 😀

    #8775
    UFOBelieve
    Member

    Oh yeah I know what you mean.

    Today was my last day at the call center. YEEEEEHAAAAA!!! =))
    It was extremely hard, if not impossible, to stay in Love all the time if you fight with some customers and try to persuade them but they are so pissed anyway because they get called 5 times a day by call centers that want to sell them worthless shit. I was fighting less and less, my customer count got lower and lower, almost zero actually. xD

    But now this is behind me, I can now focus on myself again, and pump up my frequency the way I want, without nasty distractions from outside. Well at least the next 2 or 3 weeks, until I begin to study. Noone knows what challenges I will face there. But for now, everything’s fine.

    It feels awesome when you get rid of those negative things, and you really feel free because you can express yourself the way you like and really focus on keeping your vibration up.

    #8776
    Zingdad
    Member

    What awesome stuff folks! Wow!

    Caz, the only thing I would think to add is that every interaction is an opportunity to teach and to learn. I would humbly suggest that your “friend” came to teach you the vital lesson of the word “no!”. Just maybe you need to say that a bit more?

    Let’s look at the situation a differnet way:
    Caz, if I have something of yours and you can prove that its yours and you say “give it back” and I say “no” then that is a crime. Its called theft. Literally. I now illegally hold your posession. That is THEFT! It’s something for which I can be taken into police custody for and made to give it back and STILL get a police record and worse. Your “friend” is not only immoral but actually a criminal. And she is quite happy to abuse your good heart. She hasn’t even TRIED to negotiate this with you. She hasn’t even thought to say to you “look I really need this what can I do for you to make it okay. What can I do to repay you.” Assuredly there is some service or SOMETHING she could offer you. But she has not. She intends to just make that laptop her own. Theft by small increments
    And no, you DON’T owe her your understanding as she claims. You owe her nothing. You have helped her out… heaped favour upon favour and she treats you like her own personal donation service. You’ll give and she’ll take. She is an abuser.

    Caz, what you do with the laptop is your business. Only you can decide if you are going to let it go or demand it back. It’s a laptop. It’s just “stuff”. But I would suggest that there is a lesson for you here and a lesson for her. What do you decide what that lesson is? What are you going to decide to teach yourself and her? I would suggest that you give this careful thought becasue you set up your beliefs about yourself in moments like this. Pretend you are the Caz of 5 years time looking back on this moment. Pretend you are REALLY PROUD of yourself becasue “on that day I made a GREAT choice”. What is that choice that you made? What is the choice that made you proud, that was the choice that meant “lesson learned” and that made you a happier person.

    Only you can really know what that is.

    I send you love.

    #8777
    Ascend2luv
    Member

    you guys are great. This has really helped to clear my energy, I honestly tried forgetting about it but it kept raising its ugly head and every time I heard or saw the word laptop the whole sorry affair would come into my mind and immediately I would feel “bad”. I guess for me it was that she not only abused my friendship but she abused the trust of my daughter – this was the most upsetting thing for me.

    I can prove ownership. I have just emailed her telling her that she has until the end of the month to return it voluntarily then I will get the police involved as I will not allow her to just “keep” it.

    I have asked nicely a few times and she has refused. I have no choice and I am not prepared to brood any further over this.

    A lesson has been learned from my point of view. I always felt sorry for her as she had no friends or family she was very isolated and alone – probably as a result of treating everyone this way. I guess the lesson for her is that she cannot continue to abuse others for her own gain.

    One of the things I have always done is to treat people the same way I wish to be treated. You give out what you expect to receive.

    I guess the final straw was that I recently herd her in a chatroom talking about smoking and drinking when she had told me on the phone (she couldn’t give laptop back or replace her pc because she was so broke she cannot even afford to smoke anymore).

    I feel much better having sent the email. Its very clear and precise. I have not sent it in anger I have merely told her I want what belongs to me and mine back and there is no room for negotiation.

    Thank you all for helping me. For the first time ever since this happened I am beginning to feel clearer and happier. For me its the right thing to do.

    Peace and blessings to one and all 😀

    #8778
    Teeka
    Member

    Dear Ascend2Luv,

    I want to apologize for the curtness of my response to you. I did not mean it to be curt or dismissive of the bigger picture you are dealing with. Sometimes, I view something quickly in my mind-and the answer seems obvious to me (because I am not involved in all the personal intricacies(sp) of course–sorry about that). I do not mean to be that way. Last night, my mind was exploding with all these ideas. I’n new to this site–and was caught up in all the wonderful things to discuss–and then I came across your post–and thought my advice was actually correct, still caught up mentally with other ideas. But it has been lingering in the back of my mind all day–that maybe it wasn’t. Now after coming back here to clarify—I see so very apparently how I could have seen the much bigger picture and answered more expansively and lovingly. I have gone thru many situations–like the one you described–varying of course each time, but with a repetitive theme—finally now at this stage of my life, realizing energy dynamics between people and how important it is to practice self-love/self-protection energetically.
    It took me such a long time to grasp this, and was a long and painful journey. I would be ashamed that I did not extend the measure of empathy to you I should have, realizing you are going through a stage that I struggled with myself for so long–this should have caused me to me much more caring in my response. I can’t be ashamed—because that is also an old mind-pattern of the past that no longer serves—but I am sorry. As you are going through your learning processes, I am too. This was one–practice more empathy (usually such a strong point, but not this time), see more of the bigger picture of what someone is going through
    I did not even take into consideration the effect on your young daughter, finances,etc. Actually, I did–sort of—but it has been my experience through many hard times to now fully grasp and begin to live the actual letting go of things, refocusing of energy,etc. So that was what I meant about let it go—focusing on it, just intensifies the feelings of injustice and resentment—which lowers your vibration, brings more of the same energies to you–because that is what is being created by you quantumly—-and knowing this, I expressed this to you—-but too abruptly, too dismissively and curtly. Again, I realize how insensitive this was. I am just really learning that no matter how “justified” feeling vicitimized might seem, there is a greater truth—about how everything is a quantum mirror of ourselves that we are creating,etc
    But I want you to know I have learned these things the very hard way, this is how they have been etched into my consciousness. I don’t think it will be that hard anymore—turning a massive page so to speak. I’m sorry I did not take all things into consideration.

    Peace and Love to You,
    Teeka

    #8779
    opalescent
    Member

    Just a thought, Caz… had you thought of sending her the link to this thread? It’d be so… subversive. :ugeek:
    But you seem to have opened your heart in a way she has not been able to receive. I mean, to offer it as a gift, not as a cattle prod. 😯

    #8780
    Ascend2luv
    Member

    Teeka there is no need to apologise but I know of what you speak – one of the things that I have studied is the law of attraction and how our emotions guide us. At first I thought it was all about ignoring the bad feelings and concentrating on the good feelings, almost saintlike but the law of attraction tells us to “balance” ourselves the bad feelings are our guide. When we feel bad we are not in alignment with what the universe is telling us. We have to analyse our emotions and see what is causing us to feel negative and deal with them. I tried to forgive, forget and carry on I really did but but this did not make me feel good. It wouldnt go away and I didnt feel at peace. Zingdad hit the nail on the head. when he posted.

    Caz, what you do with the laptop is your business. Only you can decide if you are going to let it go or demand it back. It’s a laptop. It’s just “stuff”. But I would suggest that there is a lesson for you here and a lesson for her. What do you decide what that lesson is? What are you going to decide to teach yourself and her?

    I was starting the learn the lesson of saying “no”. My friend (and her children) are isolated, alone and afraid because of the way she views others and treats others (I know she has done this to others including her own family). She used my affection for her children repeatedly to emotionally blackmail me – I saw her oldest daughter yesterday she was crossing the road and we stopped to let her cross and she wouldn’t even acknowledge us or look at us she just ran across and ran way – she was afraid of us :(. Let me stress, I do not do this out of anger, a need for justice and revenge but to show her she cannot continue to manipulate, lie and abuse other people. I had known I could get the the police involved a while ago , but thought it was too extreme and didnt want to upset her children. I tried to forget I couldn’t (please note I am not a materialistic person at all) if I was doing the right thing by forgetting I would have felt at peace and happy and my energy would have been calm but something wouldn’t let me it kept saying “you cannot leave this – it is difficult but you need to do something”.

    I know that since she was refusing to answer the door or my phone calls – she is trying to ignore the problem – she does this with many things thats why in the past she would come to me for money – she ignores things until they reach a crisis point in her life – she would then appeal to me for help using my affection for her children. – she probably owes me over £900 in total. I would then find out that she had lied (because her kids would say something or she would “forget” and say something). The money I dont care about = but the laptop which is probably not worth more than £200 – I do. Financially it doesnt make sense but I cannot just walk away. The universe wont let me. I believe the lesson is as much hers as mine.

    If I could walk away in peace I would believe me it would be the easier but something wont let me.

    We balance our energy by doing the right thing however difficult it may be. It gives me no pleasure to do this but it balances my energy and feels right – I believe this is more her lesson than mine.

    There is no need to apologise as I too thought like you but we cannot ignore how we feel our emotions are our guide. One of the difficulties is applying what we learn to everyday life. I am learning lessons everyday. One of the biggest lessons is to listen to my heart.

    Thank you for your initial reply because you were right – if I could have chosen I would have chosen to forget and leave it (its just an old laptop after all). But thats not what the universe wants 🙁 –

    I posted my justifications but my heart tells me the right thing is to show my friend that what she did was wrong and I sincerely hope she learns from it. I really hope she sees sense. I still have a lot of affection for her – I feel bad for her I know she is trapped but only she can break the negativity she holds herself in. I have tried reaching out and telling her (in her email she acknowledges this – but soon returned to negativity and despair.

    Her children are so fearful I have witnessed this and my daughter telling them not to be afraid. Shes so well balanced and loving. We all have to find our own path and sometimes the universe will use us to teach lessons to others as well as ourselves.

    We can ignore many things but not what is in our own hearts.

    With gratitude love and thanks.

    Caz x

    #8781
    Ascend2luv
    Member

    @opalescent wrote:

    Just a thought, Caz… had you thought of sending her the link to this thread? It’d be so… subversive. :ugeek:
    But you seem to have opened your heart in a way she has not been able to receive. I mean, to offer it as a gift, not as a cattle prod. 😯

    thats a great idea, funnily enough I was thinking I wish she could see this thread.

    Thank you 😀

    #8782
    Zingdad
    Member

    awesome stuff Caz. I see someone taking their own power back. If we don’t stand for what is ours her in our material incarnations then how can we expect that we will stand and protect our spirit being, our energy, our life force in the ascended realm beyond. That is why this is such an important lesson. Beings who do not take care of their energy soon get leeched to pale sickness by all manner of energy thieves. Your “friend” was the bearer of a gift to you. She showed you how this works and how you feel when you allow energy to be robbed.

    For what its worth I’ll tell you my principal. No one may take ANYTHING from me. Not a grain of dust. NOTHING!!! But I give and give and give with an open and generous heart. You see? It is my energy. So I shall decide how to expend it. If I give it then it has the energy of positivity and love. It can only heal and do good. And by me giving it away, miraculously I have more! Which I give away… and so a wonderful expanding cycle is started. But anything that is taken from me goes from me with the energy of negativity. It hurts both me and the thief. Becasue they WILL have to balance this with me later and becasue I am a little poorer. So it makes us both ill-er and weaker. So I have decided that NOTHING may get pilfered from me. and then I expend love and energy with joyful generosity. This is a principal I arrived upon about 2 months ago after some very painfully bad choices. I can say that it serves me stupendously well. I share my own learning in love. It might be of use to others…

    #8783
    Ascend2luv
    Member

    Hi everyone I thought i would let you know

    I have had a reply back initially she was angry.

    Not that you give a flying fuck, i’m actually far too busy to deal with this shit right now. My phone is cut off and my internet is about to drop. Infact why the hell am I trying to appeal to your better nature? Ascend2luv my arsehole lol. Do what thou wilt.
    The fact that you always seem to creep in when i’m at a low ebb shows me exactly what your energy is doing. I’m sure you feel shit about a few other things right now aye? Thoughts are whirring – “Oh, who has wronged me? Let me think, ahhh Libby won’t give the laptop back, i’ll harass her” That sure as hell doesn’t convey to me any semblance of higher nature. Well let me give you a home truth here. In my eyes YOU are stealing from my daughters, so the gloves are infact, off.
    Bring police to my door? You will not cast that shadow over my family’s life. Think again.

    The reference to the police is problems she has had in the past nothing to do with me.

    Followed by another reply where she is less angry and more reasonable.

    Ok, this isn’t because you threatened me with the police. I’ve dealt with them before as you know. That doesn’t bother me one bit.
    What does bother me is that you have been a good friend in the past, I can’t deny that at all. You have helped me out in times of need.
    I will not have negative thoughts about you. But I will say, standing on the fulcrum here, that you really do come at me during a crisis. I was just finalising an online tarot ad, to get myself up out of the crap. (Long time coming), and my nets getting cut. I am trying to sort it, don’t distract me.
    You can have the laptop back. Believe me, if I had any other choice i’d give it back quicker than you could say “Pain in the arse”. Not right now though.”

    my final reply was :

    Libby let me explain something to you. You will notice I am not asking for any money back (that I dont care about you can keep what you owe me which far outweighs the value of the laptop and camera) with the laptop and camera those are not mine to part with – the laptop i bought with the last of money I had from the house and it was Emmas birthday present. The camera was Garys last christmas present from his dad. So you understand their value. You have constantly stalled since we originally asked for them back in July. I don’t ever think is there will be a good time to ask?

    Asking me not to distract you is akin to telling me to go away and leave you alone I am telling you now this will not go away and neither will I.

    You said that my actions do not seem to you in alignment with a higher self – let me tell you that indeed they are totally in alignment. Being loving doesnt mean allowing someone to steal from you. Its simple if we are doing the right thing we feel good if we dont we feel bad. I tried forgetting about the laptop reasoning with myself that you needed it and thinking how unhappy that you and the girls would be. I know how important the net is to you but this didn’t stop me feeling angry cheated and hurt over what you had done. Emma and Gary are both affected as Emma agreed to let you and the girls loan the laptop so you have betrayed her too. Gary was initially reluctant to loan the camera but I persuaded him otherwise.

    So you see if I was meant to “allow you to keep” these and it was the “right” thing for me to do I would have been happy. But I don’t I feel very negative about the whole affair.

    I have given you until the end of September to do what you must do then I will go to the Police whether or not you say you have dealt with them before you are now breaking the law and we have proof of ownership plus every time I have asked you have refused to return them because “it wasn’t a good time for you”.

    At one stage Gary was prepared to help build another computer for you but I am afraid he wont do that now.

    Yes I am being a “pain in the arse” especially asking for it back but I do want it back – you have your own computer sitting there I suggest that even if it keeps switching itself off I can be used as it was okay when it was here. There is no reason for you not to give the laptop back now.

    The law is on my side Libby its not something I want to do. Try reversing the situation what would you do, how would you feel if someone was blatantly refusing to return something that belonged to your daughter?

    You have until the end of September. Your actions have bought this situation about. Since its our actions that determine our lives – perhaps this is the reason why you appear to be stuck in a never ending cycle of negativity. I am not doing this out of nastiness anger or revenge I am doing this because its the right thing to do.

    Any upset to the girls are not by my actions (I have said nothing to them) its all come from you. I am truly sorry for them but you cannot realistically expect me put the happiness of your family before my own.

    This is a good lesson for me on how to apply light, love and the understanding of what I have learned to everyday life, I would rather not be in this situation.

    Your continued advice and input is very useful for me. I suspect that we will face something similar. My understanding is that we cannot sacrifice our feelings or go against what we believe is right to appease others.

    p.s. I have had a great morning, I got stuck down a 10ft manhole in my back garden my son threw some of his toy trucks down there and they were blocking the drain – the little so n so tried to pull the cover back whilst I was down there laughing 😆 it wasnt very pleasant I can tell you – trying to climb up slimey walls and sliding back down was very diffcult but wasnt made easier by the fact Iwas laughing hard!

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