[UFOBelieve]

Haha I must honestly say, I can’t see any changing of the moon … Although I love to look at it whenever I get a chance.

WAIT I just remember something. I actually wanted to make a whole topic about it, but then I did some research and figured it wasn’t soo extraordinary, just a little. ^^
One night two weeks ago I saw what people refer to as a “moon rainbow”. I figured the term through my intuition and found some things that are nearly identical to what I saw.

It looked almost 100% identical to this:

Only that the clouds were a little different. ^^
In the first moment I thought it was a UFO. xD But I just kept standing and watching it without any clue what it might be. I’m still not sure on a scientific level of ‘explaining’ it with the laws of physics. After the clouds were passed, you couldn’t see the rainbow any more because of the black sky, so it was only visible with clouds around it. But it was AWESOME to look at!!

Regarding Alex Collier. Yes, the predictions are pretty.. vague. One thing that impressed me, he said reincarnation would be accepted as fact and scientifically proven broadly. There was a TV SHOW about it!! They hypnotized people and put them in trance, and then made them somehow remember past lives (there was an expert who did it), and then they researched the information they got out of the patient in trance, and they went to certain places in villages and so on, and when the people were at the places, they mostly could identify a few things, and most of them began to cry because it was such an overwhelming feeling.
Of course it was a TV show, I know, you can criticize it on a lot of different levels, but this prediction of AC certainly came true.

There were a lot of other things he predicted, that didn’t come true, but as you said Orissa, the future is subject to change.

Also regarding some differing information he has. I think the problem is that he was describing all of this mostly through the perspective that he got through the Andromedans, he was SO much into their wisdom and point of view that he confused a few things, like gravitation as Zingdad mentioned in another thread.
But if you live in the principle to see if information makes sense for you personally, on a private, intuitive level, and see what of the information offered you can accept as your own truth, you’re on the right track.

On a personal note, I just LOVE Alex Collier. He did SO much for my awakening … it was SUCH a blast to hear his 12 part interview when you just 3 or 4 weeks ago opened yourself to the possibility of ET life. xDDD
Well of course I was predetermined, so I accepted his knowledge much faster than the ‘average person’ (no offense), but it still was just overwhelmingly awesome, along with “Bringers of the Dawn”, which I have seen in the same phase.

Haha that widened my world view to a MASSIVE degree. 😆

[UFOBelieve]

Yeah I know what you mean Zingdad. I understand not much more than school physics, but I certainly saw that problem. But I guess he just wasn’t explained this in detail, he points out at several points he isn’t a scientist. So I can forgive that. ^^

[UFOBelieve]

Speaking of her, where is she? ^^
I’ve been waiting for her comment on my meditation course topic. Has she gone on vacation? 😆

But yeah, I also had to think about it. xD Where has this topic gone? xDD

[UFOBelieve]

Wow this was.. entertaining! xDD
I tried to read it yesterday evening, but I thought I may stop reading, because it was getting too complicated. xD Now I know why, it REALLY got complicated. xD At least if you have a language barrier also. 😆

But I pretty much liked it, it adds more humanity into this sacred channeling process. ^^ I hope BGC feels fine with it by now.

[UFOBelieve]

OMG GT!!
Guess what, this is almost exactly how my long hair came to grow!! xDD
I actually decided to simply have longer hair, because I always thought it looked good … at least better than that: click! … but everyone kept telling me “this looks bad, cut it off already!”, and just.. well I guess to express my individuality :lol:, I let it grow, and I like it the way it is now! =)

(Okay that image is a bit mean, I only mean the haircuts. ^^)

By the way, I wanted to add, I sooo love your smile on the image! It’s very neat! xDD

[UFOBelieve]

Okay, first of all, thx for posting Orissa.
I sooo liked the metaphor with the stream of water and the dam and so on. It was very fitting imo (haha of course it was^^).

Since we’re getting to the topic of Alex Collier again and again, I decided to upload the e-book from him that I have. It’s called “Defending Sacred Ground”, I uploaded it here: Link.
It’s really perfect for quick research when you look for some keywords in the document.

This is what he says about the moon:

Project Blue Moon

Blue Moon deals with technological development, and this is connected with what is going on in the
Manzano mountains, especially those projects connected with the Department of Energy that are to be used
on the moon. Under Blue Moon there is a group called Alpha One and Alpha Two. I am not real clear about
what Alpha One does, but my understanding is that it has to do with globally gathering materials and
making sure that the population doesn’t get spooked. Alpha Two deals with personnel. It was their job to
make sure that the 35,000 people on the moon had the type of belief system they wanted, and the
colonists on Mars also had the belief systems they wanted – even if they didn’t want to go. According to
Moraney, Alpha Two is MJ-12. So, what we think is the top of the ladder, MJ-12, is actually the bottom of
the ladder. That is what Moraney says. I have no way to verify this.

Our Moon’s Forbidden History

We live in interesting times. We all share a common interest in our countries and our world. We show a
temporary interest in space as new and unseen information and discoveries are shared, then that interest is
incorporated into day to day survival. I would like to share with you information regarding the Moon and
our Solar System. This information was shared with me by Andromedan Cosmonauts.
It is my hope that I can only add to the information and hidden revelations. As I have been reminded by
my friends from Andromeda, we all have a piece of the puzzle. I offer this perspective as a piece of that
puzzle. It is not my wish to detract or prove anyone incorrect. I myself have taken this information with the
understanding that it is just a small part of a larger drama playing itself out in our backyard and on our
home, Earth. This information was given over a period of contacts, both physical and telepathic. The
following is the Andromedan perspective of our moon.
Our Moon has an atmosphere comparable in many places to that of Earth. In many of the large craters on
the visible and the hidden side, the atmosphere is said to be denser than sea level on Earth. Our Moon has
a small egress at its north pole, and the crust is thinly shelled in places. It is only twenty-one miles thick in
some places, and thirty-five miles in others.
We’ve been told that our moon is dry. A million times dryer than the Gobi Desert. According to the
Andromedans it all depends on where you are. They say the hidden side has many large underground
lakes, huge in size. The irrigation and terra forming is occurring on the hidden side on the surface, but is
occurring underground on the visible side to hide the agenda. Apollo 15 discovered and took pictures of
water vapor clouds that appeared from the hidden side. This would be most odd and unusual if the moon
really didn’t have much of an atmosphere, as we’ve been told. Because clouds would be impossible.
The age of the Moon soil is 6.2 billion years old, and has compound and chemicals not found on Earth. In
fact, there are many chemical compounds that were discovered, but withheld from the public. There are
many more we’ve yet to discover because our science is not advanced enough yet. The lunar soil did not
come from the rock that makes up its mountains and craters. This is known to some lunar scientists.
However, its not spoken about, but in whispers. So, where did the soil come from?
The Andromedans say the soil and many of the rocks come from Ursa Minor. The location is a solar system
named in the Orion tongue “CHOWTA”. This is a binary sun system. We have many similarities in our
system as well. “CHOWTA” is a very large system, holding 21 planets and 47 moons. Our moon is said to
have been made around the 17th planet in this system.
Portions of the moons crust is radioactive. Apollo 15 discovered this. Especially near the Apennine
mountains. Why were the readings so hot? The Andromedans have said it’s because some nuclear waste
was brought up there to be reused as a fuel supply for the spacecraft that the world government has built.
However, many of the ships that use nuclear fuel are obsolete now. So, how was the moon brought here? It
was, I’m told by the Andromedans, put into the tail of an asteroid which brought it into our solar system.
This same asteroid circles our part of the galaxy every 25,156 Earth years. Andromedans have said that our
moon has been inhabited periodically in it’s history for 1.8 million Earth years.
The Moon is hollow. It contains huge underground facilities built by E.T.’s and later humans from Earth.
There are seven openings into the Moon’s crust, and the underground bases. Conservative scientists have
wondered why so many craters seem so shallow, despite their size. The Andromedans say, it’s because
much of the surface was built on top of a metallic shell of a circular space crest; or ” A War Carrier “, as the
Andromedans describe it. An example of a shallow, but large crater would be the crater Gagarin. This crater
is roughly 185 miles across, but is only 4.5 to 5 miles deep. Based on the impact and size across the
craters welt on the surface, the depth should be 4 to 6 times that deep. In fact, all the craters are the
same; they are too shallow. They defy known science.
Many of the craters have been artificially created. The Andromedans have said that many of the craters on
the far side were in fact domed cities at one time and that they were destroyed during a war that goes back
113,000 yrs. Many were used as domed cities and other larger craters were used as space craft hangers
capable of capable of housing 200 craft.
The surface bases consisted of 9 domed cities which would be equal to a small city. Small lakes or ponds
were scattered along the surface. The remains of these domed structures were discovered by NSA
astronauts, Russian astronauts, and the NASA Apollo astronauts. The true military complex of the moon is
now underground. Entrances to this alien and Human base is at both poles, the Taurus Mountains, Jules
Verne crater on the far side and Archimedes. These are the original entrances. The black government has
created more openings and is currently expanding the underground complex. The expansion is for the
operation of private scientific and military agendas for the World Order. Andromedans also state that it was
a military outpost, until it was needed in our part of the galaxy to end a rebellion that was taking place. The
personnel consisted of Reptilian, half-human/half-reptilian and those who would be known as humans.
Many of the original structures on the surface of the moon were destroyed during what the Andromedans
refer to as the “Black League Conflict”. This was a battle fought by humans of different systems that formed
a secret alliance, and fought the tyranny of the Orion Empire. Continuous destruction occurred on one side
of the moon as it was being transported here by space debris. The side that suffered the heaviest
destruction is the visible side we see. The destruction was caused by particle beam weapons when our
Moon was located in the orbit of Maldek, now a destroyed planet. Our present Moon was one of two moons,
that orbited it. The second moon, I’m told, is the moon Phobos. It also has ruins on it, as does Venus which
was a moon of Uranus. Uranus is abundant with plant and mammal life. The glass that is abundantly spread
over the moons surface came from the Domed cities that were once on this war carrier. I would like at this
point to explain how the moon is supposed to have gravity. Now this is Andromedan science and it flies in
the face of our own science. But regardless, here is the Andromedan reasons for the moon having gravity.
Our sun produces a highly penetrating radiation in the electromagnetic spectrum. This frequency is
approximately a trillion cycles a second. This frequency is located between the lower portion of the infrared
and radar band. It is this radiation from the sun that causes gravity, not the planets rotation. I will explain
more of this when we address the hollow Earth. The Andromedan science claims that any planetary body
that is 29.3 miles in size and is exposed to a sun, is capable of a gravity field. Even if it is not rotating on its
axis.
The Andromedans have related the following series of events to me. They have said that this information
has been recorded. I have not seen this yet. So, I’m relaying this information to you the reader in faith of
its accuracy.
Upon arriving on the surface of the moon, the NSA astronauts, together with their tour guides, the Greys,
were taken to the underground facilities where the remains and skeletons of Reptilian-like beings and
human beings were found. Also, old Orion technology was discovered. This location has been identified by
the Andromedans as underneath the crater named Jules Verne. The Andromedans say the size of this
facility hidden under the hidden side of the moon is approximately the size of New York state.
These huge underground facilities contain large lakes, plant life of Earth, alien form manufacturing
machinery, food storage facilities, and space craft hangers. Also, alien writing is to be witnessed on the
walls in the hallways. The NSA astronauts also were shown eight vaults that were sealed, but information
regarding their contents has not been disclosed to me. Artificial Terra environments are being created all
the time to house and support hand-picked personnel by the World Government.
The human leader of this base or facility is called Mr. Secretary. The Moon now houses approximately
36,719 human beings from Earth, a small colony; only Aryans by birth. According to the work that is being
done above and underground to expand the facilities, the Andromedans foresee a population of 600,000 in
the very near future. Much contact is taking place on the moon between regressive aliens and World Order
humans.
Currently, the World Order has fifty-three Earth built UFO type space craft on the moon. Also, other
weapons beings built on the moon are particle beam weapons, lasers, nuclear bomb satellites, and
anti-matter weapon systems. Anti-gravity anomalies on Earth were used to send equipment and hardware
to the Moon. Pine Gap, Australia and Diego Garcia Island in the Indian Ocean were the primary launching
areas. Also, Siberia in Russia is another location.
There is an atmosphere on the far side of the Moon being created on the surface for extended habitation.
There is also water, lakes, and vegetation. They are literally turning it into a habitable colony. From there,
the World Government decided to go to Mars in March of 1959. This ultra secret space program was
developed and launched largely from the Soviet Union, simply because of its natural resources and size.
They could virtually do everything in secret. Upon first arriving on the moon, the World Order astronauts,
with help from the Grays, reopened the ancient underground facility. We’ve had a working colony on the
moon since 1961 according to the Andromedans.
When the Apollo astronauts landed on the moon, the World Order had been there for some time. This
knowledge and technology was withheld from the lower levels of NASA and our military. NASA has been
used as a blind to keep the people from truly knowing what was going on our there. The astronauts were
silenced under threats and they remain so today.
I would like at this point to share some old history or events that the Andromedans say is important. I have
not been able to find any information about these events, however, because the Andromedans specifically
brought it up, I am going to share it. In 1953 Earth satellites and radar showed large objects coming
towards Earth. These were Gray motherships. These time-traveling spacecraft were the same craft seen
near Venus in 1787, 1788, and 1789. In the year 1645 a large moon seen near Venus, was seen coming
and going four times. This was a mothership from Sirius B. In November of 1844, the large craft seen
illuminating part of Mars was an Orion mothership. The same craft illuminated Mercury in 1799. The same
craft, which is spherical, crossed the Sun on March 26, 1859.
On the eclipse of July 29, 1878, the two large glowing bodies seen between Mercury and Venus, were
Pleaidian and Andromedan motherships, moving through our part of the galaxy.
In 1783 and 1787, the large bright lights that were seen on the moon were not volcanoes. They were
Pleaidian motherships the creation of a self-rule government. The first on Earth; America. In the month of
February, in the year 1894, the object photographed striking a huge black object was a carrier craft from
Alpha Draconis. On April 4, 1892, the craft that crossed the surface of the moon was not a large bird, it was
a craft that looked like it had wings. It was a craft from Alpha Draconis. This same ship was last in this
solar system on January 27, 1912.
Ladies and Gentlemen, this time in which we now live is and will be known in our future as the end of the
innocence. We, as a planetary race, must commit ourselves to the idea that truth must survive. We have
major challenges to face, and what ever is the truth, we must do all that is necessary to stick together. We
have been torn and tattered, we have been betrayed. But please, let’s not give up on each other. We are
capable of being heroes. We can save the world, and our freedom. We must believe in each other, and in
ourselves.

(……….)

Current Moon Bases & Their History

A 1995 Lecture By Alex Collier
[ Editor Note: We have tried not to duplicate other information given elsewhere in this book in this lecture, other
than material included for continuity. Consult the Master Index for further data. The other material on the moon starts
on page 18.]
More on Early Moon History
We’re going to talk about the moon, and we’re going to focus on the far side that we don’t see. As I said in other
lectures, the moon originally came from Ursa Minor and is 6.2 billion years old. It was one of four moons around the
17th planet of the system referred to in the Orion tongue as “Chowta”. It was an outpost for members of the Orion
Group and was at one time, according to the Andromedans, inhabited by as many as 5 million military members from
the Orion Group.
The moon was purposely put into the tail of a planetary asteroid, which brought it across the galaxy to our solar
system, more than 11,000 years ago. The origin of the moon was not from the earth, which is the theory that is
taught in schools. The moon is older than the earth. This same asteroid which dragged the moon here circles our
galaxy every 25,156 earth years. The moon has been inhabited periodically in its history for 1.8 million years. Now it’s
being inhabited again, and many of the original structures on the surface were destroyed during the Black League
wars, which was a battle fought by humans against the Orion Empire.
The true military complex was underground. Entrances were at both poles, the Taurus mountains and Jules Verne
crater (far side) and Archemedes (near side); all these were the original entrances when the Orion Group was there.
However, the secret government has created more openings and is currently expanding the underground complexes.
The expansion is for the operation of private scientific and military agendas for the New World Order.
Many of the craters on the moon were used as spacecraft hangars. Large craters were capable of housing 200 or more
craft. Some of the craters are as much as 170 miles wide. The personnel consisted of half human-half Grey, and half
human-half reptilian. The surface bases consisted of nine domed cities. The vegetation was grown inside these domed
structures. Small lakes were scattered around the surface. The remains of these domed structures were discovered by
NSA astronauts, the Russians and the Apollo astronauts.
The National Security Agency Goes to the Moon
The NSA astronauts were there in 1958. They have been there ever since, as has a secret portion of the Russian
government called the “Black Guard”. Upon arriving on the surface of the moon, the NSA astronauts (with their Grey
“tour guides”), were taken to the underground facilities where the remains and skeletons of reptilian-like beings and
human beings, as well as Orion technology, were located.
This location has been identified by the Andromedans as underneath the crater designated “Jules Verne” on the far
side of the moon in the southern hemisphere, and this underground facility is approximately the size of New York
State. These underground facilities contain huge lakes, transplanted earth planet life, and alien manufacturing
equipment that was abandoned and left there from the previous occupants of the facility a long time ago. There are
also food storage facilities and spacecraft hangars, which are also now being used and operated by human beings from
Earth. Alien writing and script is evident on the walls of hallways connected some of the areas of the facility. Also
discovered were eight sealed vaults. Information regarding the contents of the vaults has not yet been disclosed to
me.
Artificial environments are being created all the time to house hand-picked personnel by the world government. The
Andromedans project a potential population on the moon of 600,000 based on the amount of expansion work currently
in progress. Much contact between world order faction and non-friendly alien factions is occurring on the moon. The
operation of these facilities was managed by the NSA and the Russian Black Guard (1947), although the British were
later brought on into the operation, primarily for reasons of financial funding. As mentioned before, the NSA currently
has 53 earth-built gravity craft stationed on the moon, fulltime.
Planetary Defense Weapons Built on the Moon
Weapons are being built on the moon, such as particle beam weapons, nuclear bomb-satellites, anti-matter weapon
systems and plasma beam weapons. The reason these weapons are being built on the moon is because if there was an
invasion of Earth, the moon is considered our first line of defense.
How did everything get up there? Outside of using anti-gravity technology which the Greys had given the NSA,
anti-gravity anomaly areas were also used [Editor note: see references in index to Diego Garcia and Pine Gap]. Alien
technology is being used to create an atmosphere on the moon to permit extended habitation, and this process is
taking a great many years to accomplish. In the meantime, food is being grown underground. There is a military base
on the far side of the moon.
The first manned mission and landing on the moon was in 1958 by the Russians and the NSA, as was previously
stated, and it became an official “colony” in 1961. I’m talking about the facility that was as large as New York State.
The structures that were built on the surface were designed by JPL. These domed structures were built first on the
moon, to test them, and then on Mars.
One of the other corporations that was very important in this effort, and who actually did do the construction, was the
Bechtel Corporation, who has a covert construction team that works with the NSA.
Now, the reason we only see one side of the moon is by design. The “dark side” of the moon truly represents the dark
secret of how long extraterrestrials have been watching the Earth. Large mass structures, functioning as weights, have
been designed into the structure of the moon to keep it from rotating on a normal basis, and they are located at both
poles. These are magnetic in nature.
When the Apollo astronauts landed on the moon, we had already been there for some time. The NSA had already
established a colony there eight years earlier, and the technology involved was not shared with the lower echelons in
NASA or even the military. NASA was used as a “blind” to keep the people of the United States ignorant of what was
really happening in space, and is still fulfilling that function.
Some of the greatest scientific minds on our planet who have vanished without a trace were taken to the moon and to
Mars in an attempt to start a brand new society. Engineers, architects and people from every walk of life went there.
Alternative 4: Stage a Controlled Pole Shift
Q: I know what Alternative 1,2 and 3 were. What was Alternative 4?
A: Remember that at one time the world government was colonizing Mars. They built a huge base there that at one
time held 300,000 people. In March of 1989 it was invaded by the Orion Group, who destroyed the base. The Orion
Group is not friendly to us. Since the world government realized there was now no place to go, they had to come back
here. According to the perception of the world government, population is a “problem”, and the corporations have
polluted the environment. The fourth alternative is to stage a controlled pole shift while they are safe in their
underground facilities, in order to eliminate most of the planetary population and artificially “cleanse” the environment.
Right now (1995), the earth is tilting, and the wobble is 72-85 feet every 14 months and its getting wider [Editor note:
This is referred to as the Chandler Wobble in geophysics]. The implementation of Alternative 4 involves the placement
of strategic nuclear weapons underneath the South polar ice cap and detonate them, they could cause the cap to slip,
which would cause the planet to rotate 90 degrees on its axis. Within 24 hours, 83-85% of the population of the planet
would drown. The Andromedans, who have technology 4,700 years ahead of us, have said they would not allow this to
happen. This might indicate why the world order is spending so much time arming itself on the moon, because they
think they are going to be able to “deal” with things when help comes. They won’t be able to. The moon will simply be
pulled out of orbit, moved away from earth and dealt with by the Council.

[What follows are A LOT of maps of the moon with marks on it …. you can see them in the document beginning at page 142]

Okay this is quite a lot, I also haven’t yet read all of this. xD
For those who are interested, have fun reading, enjoy the ride of truth! 😆

[UFOBelieve]

Haha the background is perfectly fine. ^^
What’s more disturbing is this beard. xDD I thought about this two days now, but I’m just not sure. xD So I’ll ask it right away: Is this beard real? xDDD
I thought this may had something to do with some holiday celebration, but I’m just not into US traditions, you see. ^^ So please clarify this for me! 😆

[UFOBelieve]

@GT: Daaaamn straight! ;D
Rofl your avatar is hilarious!!!!! 😆

Haha I can hardly follow the ‘discussion’ here. xDDD

[UFOBelieve]

Stop it! xDD You’re embarassing me! 😆
I can’t handle all of this plaudit! xDD

[UFOBelieve]

@Annan wrote:

if God the ruler of all that is, are beeing an complete ass and fooling us all around down here, well i can live with that – and must live with that. But he must, if so, not forget that one day I will catch up with him, and kick his small or large butt for doing so 😎 😆

Haha oh my that was extremely hilarious. xDDD
And it leads me to pretty much one point: We’re on God’s path, the path of Ascension, the path of Joy and Love. If not, who on earth would have been able to make up ‘theories’ like this? 😆 If you know what I mean.

Let’s celebrate!! 😀

[UFOBelieve]

Ohhh GT that was wonderful!! That really touched me for some reason. =) *biiiiig hugs to you*

[UFOBelieve]

@Will:
That really made me think. Sure we’re kinda the ‘ground crew’, but the perspective that we would be pretty much lost without them … that really made me think. We can be so glad we have them and each other in these times.
We are pretty deep in a big pail of sh*t, but we have help everywhere we look. You certainly need to know where to look, but I guess you get it. ^^
I’ve heard in some Alex Collier lecture (I’m not sure if this is valid, I have heard contrary information also), that there are 21 other planets where the same manipulation / population misleading / etc has been going on. I hope the GFL are there too … imagine how screwed we’d be if we were on our own … there would still be infinte ways to Ascension for sure, and there would still be spiritual leaders and so on …. but it’s still a nice feeling to have them watch over us.

@re9love9u9tion & GT:
Hmm yeah I know what you mean. I’ve seen a forum go down in my childhood, it was because someone hacked into it and deleted 80% of every posts and topics … almost 90% of the members left it in the two weeks after that. It just wasn’t the same anymore …
But guys, this is a chance. I’m sure it will go up again, as we move forward as a whole. I think we can rather take this as a chance and enjoy it, for we are pretty private here, not many people are reading what we write, it’s really a private place here. Everyone knows each other! That’s the spirit! 😀

[UFOBelieve]

@Ricky wrote:

ha ha touche my friend Annan!!

We can see things from a much broader perspective.

i am getting a bit fed up of this type statement dont get me wrong i am not knocking the channeling but it seems to make me think, crap! 😮 will i ever ? i must expand my mind, i must, i must……….

yes ricky i’m sure you will,,there there …..never mind…. .. have a cup of tea and shut up.

Don’t worry, frustration is part of the duality. ;D
Keep telling yourself again and again, everything will be fine. Do everything like it pleases you, set your targets and then go down the road with joy, and you will do it! =)

[UFOBelieve]

Dear Opal,
I’m deeply impressed how you / your friends / the universe manage to make this messages so extremely fitting. 80 if not 90% of them fit one of the big topics I am busy with at the moment I find them.
You are just wonderful. Much Love to you / your friends / the universe. 😆

[UFOBelieve]

Hahahaha during my weekend offline you haven’t lost any little aspect of your most awesome humor!! xDDD 😆 😆 😆

I certainly hope that’s true! Well I’m not sure if I will be ready for something that big next year, but well, it sure would be totally freakin awesome!! xDD

(By the way, this town isn’t so small. ^^ After all it has a university. ;D)

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