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jldyMemberMy Best to Everyone: So well put a lot of the problems we have now are inticed by others and instead of listening to my own senses I accept theres. But as you grow you should have learned to listen to yourself(unless you still think like a 15 year old)and know how to handle problems maturely. Its always just when you feel you have control of things that you can slipup and wander off in the wrong direction or get weak and listen to the wrong advice when you are vulnerable. But if you stick to your guns and listen to your inner voice you will come out on top.
The toughest problems to handle sometimes is with yourself, or your body. Sometimes I feel my body is an entity unto itself doing what it must. When its suffering it makes me pay 😉 .
David and All the others Thankyou for such an interesting topic and analagy. And Thanks to Joanie for interpreting! Much to think about!Knowledge is a Sword with a Sharp Edge :geek:
JohnjldyMemberThankYou David! I take to heart what you say and appreciate your input. I have been ill for many years and have had much time to do what you say. I’ve used passion ,force,begging,and anything I could think of and all in the deepest of senserity but I am still where I am. My conclusion is that this is what is meant to be and it will change when it is supposed to. In the mean time I do the best I can with what I have been given; I accept it and move on the best way I can.
I know I’ve said this before but if it wasnt for people like Zingdad and Joanie (and theres not many like them) with information I believe in I may have been a lost soul. I’m alway’s learning something new that solidifies my beliefs and that is what I hang on to now! I know my family is waiting for me and when I’ve finished my task here I’ll be welcomed home.jldyMemberWow this is so enlightening. Put forward by David in a concise and clear manner with intelligent questions by Joanie! It not only makes one pause and try to figure what there doing but how there going about it.I can certainly see how passion is as important as reason and want. But when it comes to illness its what is needed to control problems. Sometimes pain is so strong all goes out the window when fighting for control; in the up and down world of illness sometimes an indivigual is unable to find reason or control. No matter the truth of existence right now,this very minute I am human and being human is a tough go. If it wasnt for my beliefs and the help from people like Joanie who knows what would happen. ThankYou ! It feels so good to keep learning and hearing the truth.
jldyMemberThankYou for Your answer regarding my question. It is a very interesting concept ,one that at one time I would have considered far out. But times have changed, I have changed and I now realize the truth in what you tell me. But I think a person must realize things do not just happen because you wish it to.
You have much wisdom Joanie. ThankYou!
JohnjldyMemberHi Joanie. You mentioned “the Law of Attraction Mentality”. Would you mind explaining that to me please? Enjoy life because life enjoys you 😉
jldyMemberFirst I Apologize!! I had actually written a reply before that one but it up and disappeared so I wrote this second one and I thought I lost it also…. I didnt think of page two 🙁 . I love a sense of humour and enjoy this type of banter. I really did misread you because I did not know you but I should have known better. I have said this before but obviously dont follow it and that is “Think before You Talk”. But no more excuses . I am very interested in what you have to say and Joanie is Lucky to have found you.
Humblely JohnjldyMemberDavid I think you were a little hard on Joanie for coming to you with a simple question. Maybe you reacted before thinking, no coffee for breakfast,a fight with your loved one? Joanie is a dear soul trying to help others to understand the truth of life. You cannot blame one for the thoughts and doings of others. You came across as angry not helpful. If I misread then I apologize. Let us always be positive in our responses. All the Best!
jldyMemberWhat a Wonderful story! ThankYou! It is good to know that you have someone. I look forward to that view also 😉 .You make me feel good inside realizing there is so much more for me to learn. Enjoy your break.
I’ll Be Seeing You
JohnjldyMemberDavid, I Thank You and the Devine ones for your very clear answer. You also answered another point on my mind and that do I have to say it out loud or think it and in your answer I found that to be something I needed to know ;All I need to do is think.
May I ask , you say you are everywhere but do you have a favorite place to go and relax?
In awe and respect I humbly ThankYou
JohnjldyMemberWhen guides and spirits are talking or communicating in some form are they doing this from the astral plane or from some other? ThankYou
jldyMemberI have come to the conclusion that you cannot heal someone unless they want to be healed. Theirs and old saying ” Misery Loves Company” and I have found that to be true. Some people instead of looking for help are looking for someone to drag down to their level. The problem I find is that by the time I realize this the damage is done and the recuer needs recuing. 😳
It seems some people are not happy unless they are unhappy which makes it impossible to help them. I no longer allow myself to be drawn in so far to someones problem that it becomes minejldyMemberSnowin here today 😮 . Hi Joanie.
I knew what I was getting into when I first started trying to help Kim I just hadnt attached a term to it and at that time never thought of it as such. But as time went on it became very draining on me and I realized she was beyond my help. It was actually while reading Zingdads sight that I became aware of the three terms he use’s which so eloquintly describes the rolls we play in life and how dangerious it can be.
It was then that I had my ureka moment of my part in this game. And just as Zingdad explained it all blew up in my face turning an attempt at a good deed into a travesty of a nightmare. It was then that I realized some people cannot be help and need only themselves draw their final conclusion; but in the process they creat havoc all around them.
It was a huge lesson for me not to try and play the rescuer because it usually comes back to bite you. To help someone is good but to think that you can be the road to there cure places one in the middle of that road with a freight train coming strait at you.
Keep On Smiling 🙂
JohnjldyMemberHello 😀 Not to long ago I played rescuer (thou at the time I didnt think of it that way) with a friend of mine who was in dire straits. Having not seen her for a few years (she was married to my brother) I was surprised to find her in such abad way living by herself begging to survive. She was so excited to see me that I became drawn into her problems and tried to get her out of it and back to normal. This is when I got into the the rescuer role until it all fell apart and turned into a nitemare!
What Joanie does is certainly not playing the part of a rescuer but acting as a conduit of positive information. I believe a reascuer becomes physically and mentally involved letting more be taken from them then there able to give. Joanie escapes the rescuer mode giving and helpin and not opening up to be sucked dry by someone who can only rescue themselves.
Thanks for everything from both of you 😉
JohnjldyMemberThankYou Gaian for your answer. All things are fluid and time realities are different so I understand why things happen and do not happen so I will bide my time and what will be will be. Your so right about this site as it is so full of information and help and great like minded people and I look forward to continuing on here! Again ThankYou so Much!
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