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    Orissa
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    Here we go! One landing strip coming up!

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    in reply to: Nassim Haramein – Unified Field Theory #12456
    Orissa
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    Thanks for posting this Gaian. I like Nassim Haramein, so I’ll be interested in watching this over time 🙂

    Orissa
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    One would think by now that there would have started to be some genuine eyewitness accounts filtering around the internet of this incident, Zingdad. It is hard to imagine that somebody wouldn’t have rung friends’, family etc in other towns to tell about their experience.

    In the interest of veracity I just want to clear up one misconception though which I may have inadvertantly created – the channeling above wasn’t done by Mark Huber. Susan Leland channels Ashtar & gives the Ashtar On the Road Teleconferences. Mark’s comments about the event were those he made in response to a question posed to him on the 15th May.

    Here are each of their bio’s for reference:

    Hello! I’m Susan Leland, and I have the honor of serving as a voice for Ashtar and others from the Lighted Realms. I’ve had several careers, beginning in a family-owned retail business, then as a wife, mother and community volunteer. In 1985 I became a real estate agent and was blessed with many clients who came to my community to attend an ancient wisdom school. Through my association with them, I “woke up” and started upon my own spiritual quest.

    I learned from these wonderful students and from other teachers, and I connected with my own guides in 1996. Then came an intensive period of attending healing classes and workshops and almost daily practice, while quitting real estate along the way in 1999. I have earned 6 Reiki degrees along with other certifications in energy healing and spiritual ministry.

    Today my “work” is joyfully fulfilling as a facilitator for the loving messages of Ashtar and those who accompany him at our Ashtar on the Road gatherings. Thank you for taking this time to get acquainted with me and with my mission as a voice for Ashtar!

    Namaste, Susan 🙂 Ashtar On the Road

    This is a bio received from Mark Huber. He is a contact for Faction 3 intelligence (military and ethereal information 38 levels above the President of the United States):

    I am a retired Naval Intelligence Commander, and yes, I did spend some years working for a trust company, so the rudiments of these perspectives are present. I was involved with the galactics since age 5. During a drowning incident a voice spoke in my head: “Yes, you can’t swim but you can walk. So when you touch the bottom just take one step forward and you’ll be fine.” I did and was aboard a shuttle craft. 5.5 years later I merged with a higher aspect in what is called a Walk-In experience. A couple of more NDEs (1) — some of us are quite stubborn — in 1975 and 1988, brought me to where I am now. We live in Santa Fe, NM and I was directed here 21 years ago to hold a grid point and interface with GF reps. That’s how I met [Rama and Tara Berkowitz] (1) almost 6 years ago. We’ve been working together to get NESARA announced and to inform people about the GF and to anchor that energy here. SF will be the Primary Ashtar HQ after landings occur, and into 5D. (Discerning Angels posting, 2008.)

    (1) Near-Death Experiences.
    (2) Rama and Tara play a major role, with Mark, in communicating what is transpiring both with the Galactic Federation, through Commander Ashtar and Mother Sekhmet, and with the Earth allies, or white knights, through “King of Swords” and the “King of Egypt.”

    I have also been a contactee since I was 5 years old, so I’ve a lifelong interest and involvement in galactic affairs. I was involved in military aviation and intelligence for 24 years while also having my own, private, experiences which were not shared even with my own family until recent years … for obvious reasons. I helped a close friend channel a book on star nation contacts — anonymously. I have higher aspects on the ships and am an Elder Indigo grid holder, for what it’s worth.

    In this excerpt from a letter, Mark is replying to a question on different channels with different perspectives. In the course of the letter, he gives a succinct introduction to work he and Rama are engaged in, the GF, etc., which I think is worth hearing:

    In the files on our site you can read that Rama who channels Mother Sekhmet/Alcyone (Great Central Sun), is the spiritual son of Ashtar/Athena and goes up to the New Jerusalem on a regular basis, both in-body as well as out-of-body.

    Rama and I both have higher-dimensional aspects who are Bridge Watch Standers (Commanders) on the New Jerusalem. That is Admiral Sananda Kumara’s flagship.

    We do represent–as do many others–the Galactic Federation and the Ashtar Command. We are absolutely committed to the Announcement of NESARA and to the landing of the ships.

    We represent Faction Three which is galactic forces and intelligence sources working through the King of Swords at 38 levels above the President of the United States.

    Faction One {Rothschilds} and Faction Two {Rockyfellers} do not have access to that intelligence level.

    We are not a religious organization, although we do align through the Office of the Christ. Awakening the in-dwelling crystal-heart (Christed-Heart) codes which restore our inner-dimensional/multi-dimensional memories and abilities is the goal of the planetary/personal Ascension process which will result in our collective return to 5D+/12+strands of DNA.

    Mark Huber’s Bio

    Orissa
    Member

    The teleconference has now been transcribed so you can read all about it :

    ASHTAR ON THE ROAD CALL
    May 19, 2009

    Well good evening everyone, and it is most delightful to be here – and we have a few matters – and we have been scanning and we know that you have some matters of interest as we come together in this beautiful blessed family gathering. First of all, we have an answer to a question that has been making its way around the internet. A question that we know is very big with at least some of you who have been reading the news, you know the real news. Here it is. Yes!!

    Well now. How many of you got the question? Raise your hand if you did. This is no joke. Nor was it a hoax. Was there really a ship that really landed in that really small but conservative location in one of your states that does not have such a large population? Yes, there was a ship. It was in the nature of an experiment. There was nothing except we wanted to see what would happen. In the words of one of your ex leaders, someone who thinks he still has some power but really doesn’t. We wanted to see what shock and awe it would do to a community that doesn’t really give much thought to such matters. We thought that would be a good place to present a presentation of our presence. We enlisted the aid of some rather familiar looking beings. Close your eyes and picture the image of who might have been flying that ship and if they are looking very much like those known as the greys, you’re right. We wanted someone, while there would be shock and awe, there would at least be some recognition. While you are picturing, those are working close with the Annunaki and the scientists who are given some technologies; not nearly the technologies that we bring in terms of empowerment, but nevertheless given some technologies. Those have been and will be completely superseded by the technologies of the higher dimensions that don’t have anything to do with weapons that kill people but have everything to do with love.

    We would ask you to recall that vision and see two things: you can for those who want a real vision; you can picture a white hat. These guys were pretty tall and we asked them to wear a white hat. Look inside and see the heart; the hearts beamed love. That was the only communication that was really necessary for this particular occasion. The disinformation people and the disbelieving people, and that is perfect …. We had every expectation that disinformation would be put out to even make the light workers question. How do you get to truth any way? You need to go within and go to your own being and discern. Here’s something else. If you don’t accept something as your truth, that’s perfectly ok. Dandy. Because everyone has different experiences; different backgrounds, some different baggage which creates attitude and so on and so on.

    This universe is one of diversity. Just imagine the number of zeros that describes the number of beings in this universe. Every single one of them, us, created by the same loving creator but in some cases given free will, such as on planet earth, to have their own experiences and form their own attitudes. Diversity rules. And it is coming as a part of the ascension process, into one heart and one mindedness, a recognition that we are all one; we are all from the same source and that we are all made of love.

    When you get to that point when you feel it, it is easy to allow differences of perception and discernment. Everyone has their own path. Everyone has their own way. We simply wanted to put out a bit of a message. Nobody got hurt. Nobody had a catastrophic bodily breakdown. Yes, there was some shock and awe and there are those, right now, who don’t believe it, who are writing that it never happened and that is perfectly all right. It just shows that some people did get it. Some people even got a message just by reading about it. What do you think we wanted to know? We wanted to know if there are people in a conservative town, don’t have a clue, don’t want to know, are somewhat boxed in by their own choices and their own learnings and teachings and rules of society and we are happy to r eport that some hearts opened up and some beings from that particular perspective got it.

    Now, you wonder if the world is going to be able to get it? We just gave you an answer. And so it is. For those of you whose pendulum still says it didn’t happen, it’s all right. It doesn’t have to be part of your reality. You might want to be checking out places in your own community that you think it might be appropriate for the landing of at least a small craft. You can hurry to the spot and decide if it’s for real or not. We welcome all discernments and answers. Take a pendulum if you choose. Because it is a joy. If your heart isn’t open to it and you have a set mind, that’s ok. You’re going to have lot of opportunities to have close up and personal encounters where you can examine your perceptions again and again. No problem.

    So be in rejoicing and know that all is well and wondrous and planet earth is even more ready. 0In some cases, the red carpets are already rolled out. We have been receiving invitations coming from a lot of different ways. Everything from people using their voices to invite us into their community spaces or their back deck or wherever they think we might fit; unconscious coming together saying “yes, we’re ready and we’re welcoming.” Yes, we feel welcome. Have you been having a dream recently about a ship or some kind of vehicle, one that you’re not familiar with and just perhaps seeing something that didn’t make any sense to you in terms of beings around you or people around you? You’re rolling out the red carpet too because you’re allowing it in your dream state. You may not be remem bering those. Ask for a glimpse and you’ll feel even more delight at the reunion. You may have heard that there’s part of you on the ships any way in the higher dimensions. How do you feel about that one? Yes, it’s true. Why don’t you do some discerning and see how it feels to you. First thing you know, you might be consciously bilocating. How does that sound? We are just wanting to give you a little glimpse of all of the gifts that you might already have and the ways you might have some fun to use them.

    We are coming into a very special time. Here’s an announcement. Winter is over. And the winter of the heart is done, if you allow it to be. No more down in the dumpies, clouds over the head, raining on your parade. No way. You don’t need them anymore. You have all of the empowerment and you are being supported. How about those energies from Wesak? The energies and the love from the mother. Energies poured forth literally for you to use to enjoy to be in joy so how about turning up the music, whatever you’ve got and get out there and dance or sing or just be happy happy happy because you know what? We’re springing into the summer and the harvest of all of the wondrous wondrous dreams and visions that we have co-created together. And the time is now on plan et earth as it has never happened before. This is it.

    Planet earth is taking off and it’s because of you and the light workers. Who’s a light worker any way but a member of our family in a human body beaming love, laughter and let’s hear it for bubbles of joy!!! We’re not talking about the kind that comes out of a bottle. We’re talking about what’s been bottled up in you. Now is the time to pull the cork out and let it flow, up up and away. We are being quite jolly, but we can assure you that when you listen to this, you remember it. Being happy, laughing, that’s a way to really get it. That’s what we are wanting to do here. Soak it up. Be a sponge. We’ll be talking about that more.

    That brings me to the next topic, which is cleanup. So we hope and we know. We don’t do much hoping actually, we just know, because we can see it. It is all here. It is done. All that you have been supporting that you have been radiating out to the planet; it is done if you want it to be. In other words, for each individual, you have your task, you have your progress. You have your intent and your goals in front of you and you have your memories of what has been this lifetime and most of you have gotten some memory or accounting of one or more lifetimes you call precious and it’s all here in this now moment. Whether it glows and warms you, the golden ball of light, or whether it looks a little bit more like a smudgy ball covered with tar, that’s up to you. We know you’re all golden beaming wondrous beings of light. If you see you have something that isn’t quite that way you are going to hear a little more about that, about what to do about it. We’re going to say it another time perhaps another way.

    We do like to come at different topics from different perspectives because we realize that helps you to get the full picture. First, we shall repeat a well known phrase. No dates. How about Mr. Obama? He stepped forward and gave the world a date. 72 days. 72 hours was pretty good too; a lot shifted. And anybody who hasn’t got out their calendar and marked 72 days – you might as well do it. You might want to mark 72 days. We don’t give dates, but we’re telling you that it’s all possible and probable. We’ll leave it to you exactly what 72 days is all about. Mr. Obama said on the 73rd day, he’s going to rest or perhaps party, celebrate, pop a few corks. We leave that up to you.

    Create, beloved ones, create the vision for what you know in your hearts could be happening and give it your support; your love your energy. Obama wasn’t just speaking to members of congress; he was speaking to all of the world, every individual, every being. He was saying “here it is. Reach out and be a part of it.“ At this moment in time, the most powerful thing that you can do is empower this vision.

    We’ll share without naming names, there is one in our family who has quite an awareness of what it’s all about. It’s all about love. He’s sitting almost at the doorstep of The Hague. We had a chat. He expected his mission to beam the love at The Hague during the trials, at what is called the World Court. To do it, to be loved for all of those thousands that will be coming there. To be put in front of judges of the human kind to answer for what they have done as dark hats. He’s putting out the message to them to come and trade in their dark hats for white ones. He’s putting out the message that they are forgiven and that the world is grateful for all they portrayed. That’s a pretty big job when you consider the energ ies that will be coming into the neighborhood where he is located. Help the court what he has accepted to do. That would be most wondrous. To embrace this one; this courageous one, and to send him your love and your loving support and to join him in that mission. This is only one of you with the courage and the empowerment to do this mission.

    Now when we come together and we focus our being on any mission, there can’t be any failures. There is no such thing as failure. The mission or the miracle always gets done. It may not have exactly the same form as those who embark upon the mission, but we can assure you that if it does not it’s only because a greater vision is created as the mission is performed. There’s no turning back. If you want to look at it another way, you’ve all passed the tests. Yeah! You’ve all passed go and you’re heading for the Promised Land. The world and the universe beyond have been waiting for you to come and to do this mission of returning and restoring the love to planet earth. We couldn’t do it without you, because we had to have your welcome, your permission to do this with you, but you gave it. You may not have felt trusting; you may not always believe everything you heard; we’re all in agreement and you may be noticing that. Whoever you listen to, if you are open to receiving the truth of this message, you will be open to receiving the truth of the other messages which are coming out on this topic. You will not be hearing quite so much from those who want to slip in disinformation. If something doesn’t resonate for you, you don’t have to take it in your being. You can ignore the message.

    You can, if you wish, do some clearing of your own and go for the very highest truth in the office of the Christ. You can’t go wrong. You’ll get the truth every time. Be pure in your intent. Be pure in what you ask for because you’re going to get it. It’s that simple. Is that not absolutely delightful to know? So, we have answered one of the big questions for the night.

    Now we get to go into a topic, that you have some background and some framework. You’ve heard some things. You may hear some more. Everything is happening. Everything is speeding up. If you do watch the news that comes from truth, you may not get all of the inside pictures, but you’ll certainly find out a lot. If you listen to the radio stations that have the truth, you’ll hear more. If you read the reports on the internet, specifically those come from the very highest levels of intelligence but truth, you’ll get quite a picture. It will keep you kind of busy. So it’s up to you to decide what it is that you want to dive into, read, listen to, observe or whatever. Do save some time in your schedules to get your house cleaning done. We suggest two things;

    1) make a list of what you recognize within yourself, it could be deep down, for instance,

    Do you have issues of a relationship nature? Perhaps feelings of anger towards somebody. Maybe some questions about those who are in authority in your communities. Perhaps you get a ticket while driving your auto and you know you didn’t do anything wrong, so the one who gave you the ticket is a dark hat person out to get you. You can find some words to describe that attitude. We are wanting to present examples that you can then use as a takeoff point for whatever your stuff is. Everybody has stuff. Because everybody is saying that ash tar told us to clean house. We’re talking about you; your baggage. Whatever you’re carrying around; whatever is weighing you down. If you have any moments not of that nature, that’s because you have stuff to clean out. Don’t confuse thi s. We’re not talking about your entire fields of energy being dark and murky, we’re talking about little spots. You’re down to you tipping your corners. That’s where you have evolved to be loved ones. Now as you can imagine, figuring out what’s in the corners is, in some cases, the most challenging part of your house keeping. However, because you have been climbing so high in the path towards ascension, take a few minutes by yourself, you could easily make your list because you are so able to connect with the all that you are, because you have gotten so good at it, because you are so full of love. Yes, you are loving yourselves more and more. We can see it in your fields.

    If you have a down moment, a blanket blank thing today. I shouldn’t have….whatever, what is that telling you? Its saying take a look at the situation and what kinds of dendrite webs do you have or what kinds of attitudes or emotions of coming from places? What was that all about? Why did I say that? Love that you did it. Love yourself and your wisdom because it’s coming into your consciousness for one reason only and that’s that corner that you are staring at and it says “clean me up, please. I want to sparkle and shine like the rest of you.” It is a wisdom. It is a truth coming home to you. Now we have given many ways and done many exercise for these clearings. We are asking you to do some homework. Get out your writing materials and make your list. Put this list on top of your to do list.

    Give yourself some time to be with that list and work on it. Now here’s some really good news to lighten up the job. You do the job a lot faster because you’re empowered to do so. Energies about having you feel and to assist you; you might consider them like a roto rooter doing the job. Bringing to light that which you may not have been aware of. By the way, you’ve got all kinds of teams. Lavender angels, angels, medical teams, Asthurians, healing ships. You’ve got all kinds of ascended masters and guides and most of all beloved ones; you have your own selves, this beautiful empowered sovereign self.

    Make that list and start checking off the items. Use the violet flame. Use the blue sword. Use whatever it is that is your method, your way to get it done. You will be recognized. We mentioned that there will be some times when people will look to where the beaming is coming from and they’ll be looking to you to answer the questions when a being such as those in that conservative small town had these announcements, had these sweeping changes and they don’t have the background of info that you have and they certainly aren’t as squeaky clean as you are, they still have their stuff weighing them down.

    Yet they got this obvious invitation personally delivered to each and every one of them to step out and become their own light and help light up the rest of the planet. They are going to need answers. They will be needing directions, not orders and not control. Just beaming love to them. Tell them how loved they are. Imagine someone that you consider to be someone what of a cold personality; somebody who doesn’t show a lot of emotion. There are plenty of them. Plenty who pride themselves with living in their minds. Super conscious part of them does. In their day to day lives, they are, might not even believe in god; they pride themselves as being rational; not living from their emotions at all. Kind of reminds you of one called Spock, only if you watched the old Star Trek. Under neath Spock has emotions.

    The ships are flying overhead. There are announcements such as you won’t need gasoline. You’ll get to use electricity. We have some money to give you. All of these things that won’t make any sense. They’ll say “what’s going on?” All of these changes are a bit much. I don’t really understand it. Here you come and you beam love and put them at ease. You can tell them, it’s ok. It’s time for you to get out of your box and understand that you are a loving being; that you have the capacity to love and that is what your mission is here on earth. You’re laughing and saying “How can my brother ever accept that from me?”

    The times are changing. Amidst the chaos, ones will find themselves to you because you are beaming so brightly and there’s a part of them who directs them to the love beams. Get rid of whatever you have that is tarry or smudgy. That’s why we’re saying it’s time to make some lists. We all have a few remnants here and there. As we said, we don’t have corners. There might be some places. That’s all it’s going to take. It will be easy and simple. Move it to the top of your priority and put this list to the top. Spend some time with yourselves. If you want to get together in small groups and share the energies, that is wondrous too.

    You might want to tune into the class tomorrow night. Do it with whomever and whatever resonates with you to get it done because the calendar is moving. The days are moving. The calendar pages are turning and it’s only going one way and that’s forward. Have fun. Remember – laugh, sing whether it’s in the shower or skipping down the street or whatever. Child out to play. Ego at rest. And have fun everybody because that’s what we’re all here to do and you heard it here.

    And so, beloved ones, we have another one who is to follow with words of wisdom, perhaps you might enjoy a brief little exercise and so we shall let him come and take the speaker’s box. So I, Ashtar, shall say farewell, but not really because as I am fond of saying I’m here, there and everywhere. If you choose to speak with me, just go into your hearts. I’m there beaming at you and always always loving you. And so it is. Salut!

    Source: May 19th Ashtar Teleconference

    Orissa
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    I haven’t heard of any personal eyewitness reports as yet, Millej11 however on the 15th May Mark Huber, who has been mentioned elsewhere on this forum & is in contact with Ashtar Command responded with the following reply:

    Today, there was a landing of a spherical ship landing in South Dakota
    that was reported as a news item on Business Week Online News.

    A reporter witnessed the ship landing, opening a door, extending a ramp
    and then a few Grey ETs exited and walked about. Later they reboarded
    their craft and departed. The authorities were notified and have
    cordoned off the landing site while they check for radiation and any
    other anomalies.

    We did check and this was a valid sighting and a valid event. These were
    positive ETs, not renegade ones working with the Cabal. As such, this
    had to have been an ‘approved’ intervention by Ashtar and the Galactic
    Federation.

    I will also say that we were told that when such an event occurred we
    would be very, very close to the lifting of the whole coverup lid on
    Galactic Presence.

    We are holding the Light for the highest and best outcome for you and
    each and all of us.

    Mark Huber

    Extract from Mark Huber

    Confirmation was also received last night on the teleconference from Ashtar on the Road – (Susan Leland channels Ashtar). Ashtar confirmed this was a real event which took place & was in the nature of an experiment to see how people responded to the showing up of a craft who were normally not given to thinking about such things, ie to see how they would react to a “shock & awe” event.

    in reply to: …Marine Lightwheel Sighting by US Navy Ship … #12420
    Orissa
    Member

    It certainly is an interesting phenomena Will. A couple of things came to me when I was rewatching “Thunderbolts of the Gods” video. Around 7.49 mins into the video they show a picture of a plasma discharge experiment carried out in the laboratory which makes, what seemed to me, to be a similar pattern as described in the lightwheels. So I wondered if there was some sort of similar reaction occurring under the sea either by sentient life or as a result of spacecraft moving underwater.

    Joan Ocean’s website also has similar reports of this phenomena, as well as some of her own sitings of other underwater lights & spacecraft in the ocean, including eyewitness accounts from other people who go on dives with her.

    Link to the following page: http://www.etfriends.com/Plasma.html

    THE DOLPHINS AND MYSTERIOUS LIGHTS IN THE OCEAN

    Joan Ocean, M.S.

    One of the Speakers at our Dolphin and E.T. Civilizations Conference in June, 2005 is Dr Richard Sauder. I invited him to be a speaker because I was fascinated by his research of Underground and Underwater Bases. He has been gathering information about these oceanic sub-marine bases for decades.

    I am interested because I have seen artificial lights down deep in the ocean; large white lights that are approximately 3 – 5 feet across, facing upward to the surface and illuminating the water. It is difficult to determine their exact size because the movement of the water expands and diffuses the light.

    As someone who has been swimming in the local waters of the Big Island for two decades I have seen many amazing sea creatures and unusual phenomena, such as whalesharks and giant jellyfish. But these lights remain in one place beaming a continuous stream of light while my boat circles around them. These are not rays from the sun that are everywhere at once. We can swim away from these light beams and return to see them still there. Entering the water and diving down 50 feet, I can see that this bright light is still far below. This type of light is seen in water that is more than a mile deep. Many people traveling on boats with me have seen this phenomenon.

    In addition to these lights, many of us on the Big Island have experienced large, transparent, sphere-shaped Balls of Light as big as a ballroom, while swimming among the dolphins. These spheres are near the ocean

    This is how we interact with these Domes of Light. We notice the dolphin pods of approximately 150 dolphins swimming close to shore. They come to our boat and then bring us to these milky-white plasma balls. They seem to want us to go there and so they lead us directly to it. When we swim inside, we can see nothing beyond our hands. We cannot see each other or the dolphins. We cannot even see our own feet. It is unusual to tread water, see our heads above the surface and then look below and see no bodies! It feels like our body is in two different dimensions.

    Within the White Sphere we can hear the dolphins

    We often swim in and out of this huge floating plasma ball for 2-3 hours. When we finally swim away and board the boat to return to land, we feel very etheric and lightheaded. We experience a quiet peacefulness, serenity, a heightened awareness of Beauty all around us, and a deep feeling of inner joy and gratitude.

    I am very interested to hear from other people who have seen similar ocean anomalies. Please write and let me know if you have heard of this or seen it.

    Dr. Richard Sauder will share his knowledge of underwater bases and ETs, the Navy and the dolphins at our Dolphin and E.T. Civilizations Conference in June 2005. http://www.ETFriends.com/conference

    Pravda Article about Underwater Lights – Underwater civilizations – 05/12/2004 14:37

    For more than 100 years sailors of merchant and military ships have been reporting strange occurrences: underwater bright lights and unidentified objects. Majority of such reports came from regions of Persian and Siamese Gulfs as well as Southern Chinese Sea and Malay strait.

    In 1963, the United States were conducting Navy training not far from Puerto Rico. Suddenly, the training session had to be stopped. Sonar operators determined that one of the submarines was changing its coordinates and was following a strange object. The object was moving at an incredible speed: 150 knots. No modern submarine is capable of traveling at
    such rapid speed. (On average, subs cannot exceed 45 knots). Obviously, the object escaped after maneuvering at 20,000 feet. A report was immediately forwarded to the Commander of the Atlantic fleet in Norfolk, VA.

    American scientist A. Sanderson, who devoted many years of his life to studying ocean depths, writes the following about a mysterious occurrence which he observed from the deck of an ice-breaker in the Atlantics: Suddenly, something emerged from the waters, breaking thick ice; the huge silver object then disappeared in the sky|.

    After thoroughly examining US Navy archives regarding such unidentified underwater objects, Sanderson came up with an interesting hypothesis. His hypothesis talks about the existence of highly developed civilizations right here on earth.

    All I can assume is the following: the hypothetical circular spaceships| could have used continuously working scanners of radar type, their beams in turn become visible for us only when they produce luminescent masses of small unicellular organisms.

    Such hypothesis appears to be rather believable. It can also be added that in cases where the emissive power of the so-called radar gets too high, then water itself will be luminescent.

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    In 1928, peasants from the village Shuknovolk (Karelia) witnessed another remarkable event. The phenomenon remains a mystery even today. One of the locals, F. P. Fedotov, presents his account of those days.

    Something resembling a big cylinder with red flame streaming from its rear end collapsed into the lake. Some say, that it is still lying on the bottom of this lake and hampers fishermen to fish there. After the fall of the object, local residents started noticing a strange 1-1,2-meter long creature. The creatures body appeared slim and its hands were touching the ground. Each hand contained four fingers. The creature was incredibly fearful; it would always hide in the water whenever approached by humans.

    apanese have a legend of a cane man. According to the legend, not only did the man live under water but he also could fly at an incredible speed. The legend has much in common with the alien in Karelia. Both of them have membranes with claws. Japanese have an image of this creature which dates back to VII century.

    Do underwater civilizations exist?

    Underwater and Underground Bases–essential reading. by Dr. Richard Sauder

    The Evidence for Secret Undersea Bases

    ………. Over the years I have encountered bits and pieces of information suggesting that there may be undersea naval facilities. A former associate of mine who had been in the Navy told me that there are tunnels on both coasts of the United States that submarines enter when they are at sea, and then travel through to secret, underground submarine bases that are inland from the coast. I have been told, time and again, about purported submarine tunnels in the Long Beach, California area that allegedly bore inland from the ocean.”

    “…..It is important to understand that the technology for constructing manned, undersea bases hundreds, even thousands of feet below the sea floor exists…….

    The experience, the expertise, the machinery, the trained personnel and the financial means for constructing manned bases beneath the ocean floor have been in place for at least 35 years.

    Bear in mind that the petroleum industry routinely carries out major industrial operations in deep water, well out to sea. The petroleum industry also routinely bores down into the deep rock beneath the ocean floor”

    “…. In principle there is nothing to stop a tunnel boring machine (TBM) from tunneling out beneath the sea bed, from onshore. Once offshore, beneath the sea, there is nothing to stop the TBM from tunneling along the coastline, miles out to sea – beneath the sea floor. And no one would be the wiser.”

    “….. tunneling out under oceans, seas, bays and estuaries has been done for a very, very long time all over the world, stretching back at least into the 19th Century, if not before. Undersea tunnels can stretch for miles, and reach depths of 2,000 feet or more beneath the ocean floor. Of course today’s technology is far more powerful and sophisticated than it was 50, 100 or 150 years ago. One can only speculate as to how long, how deep and how elaborate contemporary, clandestine, submarine tunnels might be.”

    LUMINESCENCE, GULF OF SIAM

    From the book: INVISIBLE RESIDENTS by Ivan Sanderson

    Second Officer C. J. Boyes and Midshipman M. Hibbert of the British ship, S. S. Telemachus reported the following about rays of light traveling under water in 1962:

    These rays changed from parallel lines to curved lines which rotated around a center.

    An article about them appeared in the United States Naval Institute Proceedings, written by, Commander J. R. Bodler (USNR).

    My vessel had passed through the Strait of Hormuz, bound for India. The night was bright and clear. The Third Mate called me to the bridge, saying that he had observed something I ought to see.

    About four points on the port bow, toward the coast of Iran, there was a luminous band which seemed to pulsate. Examination with binoculars showed that the luminous area was definitely below the horizon, in the water, and drawing neared to our vessel. With the approach of this phenomenon it became apparent that the pulsations seemed to start in the center of the band and flow outwards toward its extremities.

    At a distance of about a mile from the ship, it was apparent that the disturbance was roughly circular in shape, about 1000 to 1500 feet in diameter, a revolving motion with streaks of light like the beams of searchlights, radiating outward from the center…..

    ….. The beams instead of broadening out as they leave the hub, as do all other types of lights except laser beams, appear to continue as parallel bands. These underwater lights appear to have a definite point of origin. This point of origin invariably seems to be moving. Sometimes the “eye” appears to have moved in under a ship and, to have stayed there for some time, presumably traveling WITH the ship.

    The first major point to understand is that these displays are not “wheels” of light; for whoever heard of a wheel without a rim? Rather they are a series of “spokes” that rotate or whirl horizontally around a diffuse center. (Several of the reports state that the center was not brighter than the rays, but that it was “mushy” or almost indefinite. This is significant.)

    Seasoned mariners have reported these lights for hundreds of years.

    One report made by Officer Douglas Carnegie, of a display in the Gulf of Oman states, I noticed that an intervening ship had no effect on the light beams. The beams seemed to travel right through it. In one case, observed by the second officer of a Pacific and Orient liner in the Strait of Malacca, the shafts appeared to be about 300 yards long……

    Another curious fact is that the whole manifestation may turn either clockwise or counterclockwise; two may be going in opposite directions at the same time; or one may slow down and become dim and then come back, revolving in the opposite direction. This is immensely puzzling.
    It is not phosphorescence, or luminescent animals, luminous squids or plants.
    If anything, the source of these lights could be mechanical. A mechanical source could account for the regular beams, of regular width, regularly spaced, and revolving at a regular speed; and beams changing from straight to curved.

    Any craft that can travel through space should be able to continue on and down into a liquid medium, since said craft must be completely sealed. What better place to land than the bottom of the seas.

    Perhaps they are all over; perhaps they prefer water of a certain temperature; perhaps they need the enhanced “spin” of the equatorial belt (as in Hawaiian waters-JO) to help in their braking for landings and thrust for take-off; perhaps they just stumble upon locations such as the Indian Ocean, with ready made raw materials in greater abundance than elsewhere.

    What is the answer? We still know so little about the world in which we live.

    August 18th at the Airport Bay, Hawaii 2005
    Report from Elaine T. – Podleader from U.K.

    I am happy to share this unique and wonderful experience!
    This morning our pod was out on Veto’s boat; we had been in the water three times, watching, sending love and interacting with our dolphin friends and their newborn babies. The dolphins decided to lead us into Airport Bay, and so with reverence and gratitude we followed. This was to be our last dive of the seminar, and the dolphins were ready to play and lead us into the magical world of joy and dreamtime. As they circled, I waited quietly in the water, hovering over the radiant light rays that emanated from the deep blue depths of the ocean, watching the play of light as it flickered and danced.
    Suddenly, a large circular disc appeared in the depths. The perspective was slightly elliptical, and I thought at first that I was looking at the sand patterns and coral on the ocean floor. Inside the disc were concentric circles such as you would see in an Orb. These circles were pulsing and wavering inside a very clear darker rim. There were also shorter dark wavy line markings around the disc following the circular rings.

    I watched in amazement as the light beams shone out from the centre of this very large disk. I dove down about 20 to 25 feet to see it more clearly (I thought it was resting on the bottom), and not only did it completely disappear, I couldn’t even see the ocean floor, even from that depth. I resurfaced and looked again, and there it was. The wavering pulsing lines gave the impression that it was somehow breathing in and out, like a heartbeat, but more gently. It was golden colored, like the finest sand with shadows or color variations playing and moving over the surface, but all the time surrounded by the big blue.
    I estimate that from the surface it was at least 15 meters or larger across the radius, having a slightly domed look to it. It was also about 10 meters down, but as I said before, when I dove, it was no longer visible.

    At this point, another swimmer, Kirsten, came to my side and I signaled that there was something circular below. She confirmed that she could also see it, and told me that she had just seen 5 dolphins dive deeply and disappear completely while swimming over the “ship”.

    Underwater Circular Disk – painting © Elaine Thompson – (See in link provided above)
    **************
    Report from Kirsten V. – participant from Holland
    It started with me watching the dolphins swimming peacefully in layers (underneath each other) as if they were in dreamtime. I then swam above 5 dolphins, and I watched them as they dived slowly deeper and deeper. It seemed to me as if they disappeared into the light rays in the sea that were coming from the depths.
    Then I knew that they were still there; I could feel it, hear them, I just knew it…but they had vanished from view. That occurred at the same moment that the other dolphins were swimming out of the bay. I also knew that they would return. Perhaps I was understanding a communication from them.

    I waited, floating in the light, and I spotted Elaine, who was only a few meters away also lying still in the water. I swam to her. It felt as if we were in a light meditative state. Then she signaled a circle and pointed down to the bottom, and I saw a big circular disc with circles within it. It was pulsing and moving although stationary. It really looked as if it was breathing and pulsing like a heartbeat. Then it disappeared, and came back seconds later. I was so amazed that I was holding my breath, and I wanted to rub my eyes, because I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. On a deeper level, I knew what I was seeing. I knew it was an extraterrestrial ship. Then the sounds of the dolphins became louder, and I felt that they came closer from outside the bay. Then I saw the 5 dolphins below coming back out of the center of the light shining from the middle of the ship. This was when the dolphins communicated with me and said “This is the way we do it”.
    As they came up, I followed them and swam along, and then the dolphins, like a reception, surrounded me. What a wonderful goodbye for me!

    I felt so touched that Elaine and I were together, and that we both witnessed the same thing together. She asked, “Did you see it?” My answer was, “Oh yes, I saw it!” When we talked afterwards, our description of the craft and the entire experience matched exactly.

    in reply to: Happy Birthday, jamwolfsky! #12415
    Orissa
    Member

    Many belated Happy Birthday wishes & blessings, Jamwolsky. Sorry I’m a little late!

    in reply to: …crop circles… #12140
    Orissa
    Member

    Two new ones just added 3rd & 4th May http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/eastkennettlongbarrow/eastkennettlongbarrow2009.html

    East Kennett Longbarrow, near Wiltshire. Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009

    Clatford, near Manton Wiltshire
    Image Olivier Morel (WCCSG) Copyright 2009

    I also like this site for ease of viewing & additional information. http://www.x-cosmos.it/cropcircles/

    in reply to: Hello, Nada here #12386
    Orissa
    Member

    Hi Nada,

    A warm welcome to you!

    in reply to: …Google Earth 24 hr videos playlist set up… #12394
    Orissa
    Member

    Seems very similar to what was going on around October 14th onwards. According to what I have read by Mark Huber there are supposed to be 9 Wingmaker ships that are stationed here – 3 over the North pole, 3 over the South pole & 3 on the Equator for the purposes described in the previous post. I discovered the Wingmaker’s site early last year which has a lot of information on it (I think I remember Will posting the link to that site a little while ago on the forum) so mention of these ships by another source, ie Mark Huber caught my interest.

    Anyone interested can read a lot of info by Mark Huber regarding Nesara, channeling & ethereal information at http://www.welcomethelight.com & their companion yahoo site http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GRT-News/. I found the website has several of the channels that I was already reading all nicely contained on the one site so it is very convenient having them all in the one place.

    in reply to: Mathew Message 4/26 – Swine Flu #12380
    Orissa
    Member

    Gaian,

    I saw the same post on a different website before you posted your source & did the same as you, looked on Susan’s website & also their yahoo group only to find nothing there.

    I checked their site again today & found the message has been posted with a couple of additions. So here is the message now with some updated content.

    April 28, 2009

    1. This is Matthew, with a short message to greet you with love and assurance that the latest Illuminati plan—biowarfare—not only will fail, but will be a huge breach in their remaining toehold in your world. Jean Hudon asked for my comments on the swine flu outbreak that was being touted as a global pandemic. I have asked my mother to send my reply to Jean to her distribution list for still wider dissemination of the truth about this virus as well as my additional note about our observations of public reaction.

    “Once again the dark streamers that are heavily influencing individuals in powerful positions have lashed out in what can be well-termed this energy’s ‘death rattle.’ The newest strategy—the ordering of laboratory-designed, created and released swine flu virus—is, as before, abetted by the controlled media’s part of the plan, to declare PANDEMIC! It is puzzling to us that these dark ones did not learn from their abject failures with SARS and then the avian flu, both of which were widely publicized with the same global pandemic prognosis; eventually the publicity was forced to cease because those diseases caused a few deaths, then totally fizzled out. This swine flu situation will have the same result. The technology of our family in other star nations has neutralized the vaccine that is intended to spread this disease, just as they did to prevent the spreading of SARS and avian flu.

    “This new diabolical plan has been done without the US government leader’s knowledge, unlike the previous two pandemic attempts, which were fabricated with the approval of the highest members in that administration. Think about the timing of this latest disease publicity. In addition to authorizing the creation of a virus and its intended worldwide fear, the darkly-inclined individuals’ aim is to distract the attention of the populace from their growing demands for peaceful negotiations; indicting responsible ones in the US government who authorized torture; the truth about the perpetrators of ‘9/11’; what caused the collapse of the global economy; the decades of government cover-up about the presence of extraterrestrials; who operates the illegal drug industry; the real purpose of chemtrails and weather control; the aims of the worldwide Zionist movement; and the ‘black ops’ behind terrorism around your world.

    “It is not enough to create a distraction for only the people of the United States simply because this is the country where much of the corruption and deception originated and where now investigations are running deep. No, it must be a global effort because individuals with dark intentions, who live around the world, are panicking as they see other governments’ citizens joining the clamor for truth, for peace, for renewable energy sources, for improved health care and education, for just laws and rightful recognition of women’s equality. All of those are anathema to dark individuals as those conditions are the opposite of all dark goals. But just as the collapse of the global economy is exposing the truth about who has been manipulating it, so will this swine flu plan expose other evils perpetrated by the same dark ones within the Illuminati or under their control. Welcome this evidence of progress in ‘bringing to light’ the truth and the fast-withering tendrils of dark energy around your planet!”

    2. Since I transmitted that message to comply with Jean’s request, there are firm indications that the public-at-large is increasingly skeptical about the motives of individuals at highest levels of medicine and pharmaceutical corporations: There is this sudden outbreak of yet another kind of flu and “accidentally” there is live virus in the vaccines? Yes, there is some fear as well, but not nearly in the proportion the Illuminati intended and expected. Quite the opposite—this is a setback of major proportion for them! Peoples’ reactions show their expanding consciousness, and this is likely to cause widespread outrage that will not be confined to the deliberate attempt to infect millions and cause global panic. Light efforts are underway in numerous other areas too that will remove the long-time heavy hand of dark control in your world. Holding steady your light and being patient a bit longer for dynamic developments will be abundantly rewarded!

    http://www.matthewbooks.com

    in reply to: from the Pleiadian Renegades: In the Meantime #12307
    Orissa
    Member

    Great to hear from you again !- both Opalescent & the Pleiadian Renegrades. 😀

    in reply to: Blossom April 6th #12257
    Orissa
    Member

    @Syme wrote:

    I am also wondering what other people are feeling from this latest from Blossom.
    FOL speak about that it may be time to put on a show.

    Are others here feeling truth still from her messages and does anyone else know of other information that may have been listed on other sites about a possible intention to show?

    I remember back before Oct 14th that other channels started coming forth with information.

    Syme, I just checked out the Cosmic Awareness site which I had forgotten about for a few months & found their 2009 forecast. It has some interesting information about the Galactic Federation & First Contact which I’ve posted on this thread https://book-of-light.com/forums2/viewtopic.php?f=40&p=6315#p6315 which seems to suppport Blossom.

    in reply to: Blossom April 6th #12253
    Orissa
    Member

    @UFOBelieve wrote:

    I want to share something with you. I have a lot of dreams about First Contact, it’s incredibly teasing. Really, it’s painful actually. Nearly every time in a dream I ask myself “Is this real? Am I NOT dreaming?”, and usually I think excitedly “OMG this is REAL!!” because it just FEELS so incredibly REAL … and when I wake up, I remember it, and am totally disappointed …

    Guys, really, first it felt good to dream about it so often, but it really is becoming quite nerving.

    Now guess what happened this night after I read the lastest Blossom-Text. 😉
    What seemed to keep in my head was this term “Light-Show”. I can remember a scene from my dream where I was looking outside the window of my brother’s room and there was a giant image at the horizon which consisted of several, or actually a lot, of single Lights which made up this whole image. There was a moment where I was unsure whether it was made up on the ground or entirely in the sky, but then I noticed that in the News the EXACT formations were found all over the Globe and I felt so incredibly blessed, relieved, … (Ego-moment maybe ^^).

    The point is, I just woke up an hour ago, and as I usually do in the bathroom, I was looking up in the sky (really, it has become a ritual), I was seeing some nice cloud formations, thinking “oh sweet”, and then BOOM the scene from my dream was back in my mind, and I just felt terrible. HONESTLY guys, if I could stop dreaming about these things, I would!! It has become just a big fat painful tease…

    Guys, please, any thoughts on this?? I could need some help on this subject. I am kind of realizing how painful it must be for THEM to be sitting there in the sky, for lifetimes of thousands of years, looking at us lovingly .. unable to affect change directly.
    (WOW OMG reading this again before posting this, I realized that this maybe was my perspective a few hundred years, before I incarnated here … maybe this is a deeper connection to my true self than I think… just a thought.)

    Please guys, if you have any thoughts on this, please share them. Greatly appreciated, as I don’t really know what to think about this. Should I put fuel in the fire and keep dreaming (the visualization is also pretty painful actually, I always try not to dive in TOO DEEPLY …) with the feeling of dissapointment of myself about the inability to mainfest it, or should I maybe protect myself a little more and kind of get a distance between me and this dream.

    Please help me on this …

    Love and Light to everyone !!!!

    UFO, I had a couple of thoughts about your experiences. I feel that you are going interdimensional when you are dreaming & visualising & connecting with your star family. The thing is though, when you wake up or are looking into the sky you are still seeing them as “up there” or “out there”, rather than as within you & a part of you. I think you intuitively have the knowing of them & your thought (which I’ve bolded above) is spot on, so the pain you are describing is you experiencing the pain of separation.

    After I read your post I was guided to a video of Magenta Pixie’s that I had not seen before. So just see if the message contained within it resonates with you at all.

    [youtube:1ri8bd3m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDRR-j84g8w[/youtube:1ri8bd3m]

    in reply to: Suggestion / Question about this spamming problem #12273
    Orissa
    Member

    Annu, there was a new post today (my Monday 6th April), actually I think Zingdad & I were working on it at the same time 😆 . I made a note yesterday of the latest new member to join up, which was Hancor Kahomada. This wasn’t from that user though as it was a different username.There have been no new sign ups since yesterday. So this must have been one already previously registered lying “doggo” as we say over here.

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