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  • #13393
    Joanie
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    @Denise:

    The piece we wrote is about Love. Love is the word that chose to come out of us. We have not said “sex” or “sex it up” or “do it like the pony or the horsie.” We said, “Love one another freely.”

    We believe you saw this quite differently. In fact, we believe this is a difficult topic for you. Therefore, we say we think this is something you could choose to look at. We think the words put down are for people who have difficulty in this area. Why? Because many people are confusing sex and Love.

    Sex is a function. An act. It is a pleasure act or vehicle. Where one shows they wish physical play for a while till the “O,” or the orgasm is reached. (Some do not, but we’re making a point here. (smile) ) If one wishes sex, they go, find, do. This is easy. It requires finesse at times if one wishes a good time that offers value (if they pay for it). Or, it is easy to acquire if one searches online, in bars, rest stops, parties. This is easy. At times, one can find this when they don’t even look for it.

    We say this because sex is easy to get, easy to leave. Or is it? Ah! The addicted ones. The lustful ones. (smiles) They find sex necessary. Do hearts open? Do fingers tremble when the phone rings for the date? It’s not the same as Love — the Love we discussed in the last piece.

    You see, we talk of Love — free Love — because it is not quantifiable. It is not measureable, nor can it be contained. We love to say that Love measures us. It loves to take us over the threshold.

    So, given that sex is an act — a physical act — we go to where you talked about no sex in Heaven. Dear Denise, we do have sex here. It is man/woman. It is the Divine reaching heights. It is the ultimate. Can you please let us know where you heard this? We wish to hear what you know. We do this if we choose and love loving others how we wish. If a physical body is what we choose, sex is had this way. If Lightbody is chosen, it can be done this way, as well. Both are sex — sexual acts of Love.

    We believe this information given strains you somewhat. How are you?

    Virgins. Heaven. Funny.

    The last thing I, David, wish to do, Denise, is turn you out. You are a funny woman with such depth of character. I am taken by the passion, the amazing love you have of Life. I say you are a good soul who wants safe Love. Safe home. Safe body. Yes. All these things are our values. We want Love to be said — spoken of — shared. It is locked up inside many who wish to express it, yet they are locked up. They do not see it harms them to hold in feelings.

    OK. Sex. It is physical. Love expression=sex. Now we talk about your concerns. If one loves, they sex. Is this so? Not always. We do not condone “Love. Sex.” Nor do we say, “Love to sex.” We say, “Love. And if sex is there, OK.” We believe this could happen, yet it is not to be given freely without sacred commitment. Sacred commitment is taking a look at Love, examining what is shared, what is between two (or more), and deciding if sex is part of the agreement. If folks wish this, they can sex.

    Make love. Sex. You choose. (smiles) You said “sex” many, many times. We like “make love,” yet the stories you described were not Love stories. They were sex and “sex gone wrong” stories.

    OK. How do we share? How? If we, here in the universe away from you there, share Love, how do we stay/keep ourselves from problems — the problems you described? We Love without attempts to control. We Love for Love’s sake — to share Love, be Love, mimic Love, enjoy Love — all so the other will be happy. If sharing Love is good, then sex is good with this Love we have here. If Love is without sex, so be it. Sex is not a requisite. It is not to be had because one loves the other. No. It is to be had if two (or more) wish this in return for sharing Love with the other(s).

    OK. Have we got you sick? OK. Slow down. Don’t get the pen yet to respond again so fast, Denise. Let his sink in. It’s new.

    Now, how do you think it goes? What do you think happens? We love by placing parts together. Yes. Just like you do. So, if this is gross, we say, “Nuh uh. Nah. Nope. Not here. No. Gooood.” It’s fine. We have fun, too. Just as you do.

    Go find where we are not to sex. We are to find where you are not to sex. This will be difficult because we want you to have sex — all of you to have sex if you want to. Why would one be kept from an act that gives pleasure? And if Love is on the docket when sex (making love) is called up, we say, “Blessed is the one who finds Joy!”

    Do you know rape, incest, sex slavery are not Love? They are hateful, loathsome acts of violence. We abhor these acts, although we understand souls who experience this for opportunities to grow, shift, learn many lessons. We believe you confuse sex, rape, Love, and many violent, non-Love acts. Too many concepts mixed together.

    OK. Take the Love. Open the heart. What do you feel? We say you are to feel many tingly sensations inside. If one says, “I love you,” do you croak or float? We think the latter. OK. Now, if they love you and wish to make love, too? Tingle or die? We think the former.

    How do you wish to be? Tingly or dead? We believe folks wish tingly because dead means Love is not entering their being. All we say is, “Love you. Love me.”

    How is this?

    Love, David, the host, Jesus, Mary Migdala, Mother Mary, the Angels: Michael, Uriel, Samuel, Raphael, Auriel, and the angels who love you, always

    #13403
    denise
    Member

    OK Guys,

    Maybe you hit a hot button with me (no pun intended) but once I got hot about free love and hippies I started typing and couldnt stop. But did anybody read the part I wrote about LOVE and not just the sex part? Because I have taken you angels very seriously when you said love, and that we are all one, and I am trying to rid myself of predispositions and prejudices and judgements to practice sending love to all.

    Here it is:

    So now let’s get back to LOVE. YES, I agree, love everybody. (But mostly without sex.) I love my family and friends, people I know, and even people I don’t know. I’ve been working hard on this. I notice that it’s easy to love people I know or talk to or listen to. But some days I look around and see someone who looks ugly. And try to love them. What color is their skin? What size is their body? Rotten teeth? Acne? Handicapped? Blind? Give love and love love love. We are all one.

    It is hard to love others with faults when you don’t love yourself. Work on knowing and loving yourself first. Accept your faults and theirs. Practice compassion, empathy. Walk a mile in each others shoes. Bear each others burdens, share each others joys. “We are all in this together…” “Get by with a little help…” “All you need is love…love is all you need.” (since you want some music.)

    Love isn’t just for people. Love the earth and the heavens and the stars. Love your pets and your plants. Love your new car and the open windows and the wind in your hair. Love the pretty tulips blooming through the frozen ground. Love your favorite foods and your favorite sport. Love your favorite books and movies and music. Love how you feel when the sun shines on your face.

    Love your angels and your guides, let’s not forget.[/size][*]

    So let me know what you think about the non-sex part because this is the true stuff the real stuff I meant to portray when discussing this topic. The sex part was just warnings about reliving the 60’s.

    Love and all my best work is for you.

    Denise 😀

    #13409
    Joanie
    Member

    @John:

    You got the ticket, man! (laughter — much laughter)

    OK. Enough hysterics. Please board the train with the intention of riding only where Love prevails/resides. If you sit on someone who is not a ticketed passenger, you will be thrown out the box car.

    OK. Enough. Now we get to business. (Joanie is horrified, for she believes half the readers have blushed, turned off their computers, or question what she’s doing with me.) (laughter; hugging Joanie for reassurance)

    The message we put to you is this: If there is a person who you love, love them. If they love you, it’s mutual, yet not necessary. We believe opening the heart is important as many close the heart and see pain, dark wounds, all hateful memories gone by. If a heart opens, the person heals. Joy fills them so much they float, whiz by Mars, turn towards Jupiter, return flight at point zero.

    Point zero or zero point. Hmm. We haven’t discussed this. We shall. It is when Home is felt on Earth. A union of Joy — Heaven, Earth — together. Oh, what a feeling…
    Zero point…

    To us, the union of hearts is necessary so folks can feel Joy in a “Love way.” The “Love way” is unique to your experience because it is in a body. The physical body is laden with markers that are aroused when Love is brought out. So, you are set up, or wired to feel this Love.

    Now, two. More. We say more is OK if one sees more to love. Why? Why is this good? OK. Because hearts see Love and hearts feel it. They like more than one. It is part of sharing. It is a beautiful thing to love more than one soul. We share Love. We ask, “Do you love this?” or “Do you love me?” or “Love is wonderful, no?” We love because Love is here in heart and it is spilloing out to be freed so it can be spread with Joy across Heaven.

    How do you see this? Are you sure you are clear? We do not mean sex, sexing, sexalicious talk. We are speaking of Love. Heart Love. Share Heart Love. Share Heart Love.
    This is our message.

    OK. The Love-In, as Joanie calls what will be at her new place of residence. The Love Fest, Love-In is the issue here. It is an issue because people believe sex is Love, Love is sex, two are only, one is bad, three is nasty, etc. We are here to say Heart Love is unrestricted. No two can keep Love from happening. If more enter, how could one restrict Love? No. We say, “Let in Love. It is good, healthy, natural, beautiful. All is good.” We say you can feel Love without sex. You can enjoy Love with a partner, and if more are there, OK, then it happens. Here, we are free. All live freely. So you see, here at your place of residence, this is an issue. A big issue.

    Why do folks see this as strange? Do you believe we are strange? I daresay you all are strange for believing Love is to be containted. Now, why are we loving two or more? Because it is good to show Love to others. Good. Heart Love. Yes. Love, not sex.

    Folks are seeing sex as bad. Or Love as sex. What are you doing?

    John, the people believe sex and Love intertwine. We believe, as you do, that one is with another by choice. If Love enters, good. If not, fine. If sex comes to be, fine. If not, OK. This is our wish: You can be a person wishing a girlfriend, lover, wife — whatever you wish — and she will be there. So, go to sleep. Dream. Make Love be your desire and the dream can come true.

    Love is the answer.

    Love, David and The Divine Ones: Mother Mary, Jesus, Mary Magdalena, the Angels: Raphael, Uriel, Samuel, Gabriel, Michael, your guides, Abe and Stefani, and more who love to see you laugh when you read this

    #13421
    Joanie
    Member

    @Denise:

    Yes. This is so. This is so.

    Yes. We see “Love is the answer” you wrote, and we answer, “Yes. You are here saying Love.”

    OK. We wish to converse with you. Do you believe Love is making you sad? Do you see Love hurting you? We see Love hurting you, so we ask this question to you. If you feel so, then let’s hear it. If no, then OK. We ask because we believe it could be so.

    Now, you are one of many who are right there questioning us and our beliefs, ways — distancing, perhaps — and wondering why we tell stories of more than one, nasty messages of Love and all, etc. The ones who worry whether we’re sane can rest. We’re fine. To the others who question our motives, we say, “We wish you Peace, Goodwill, and fun.”

    OK. Have this: We believe the one writing is fine with the words written. She speaks of Love, Unity and commends us for putting this down for you to read and contemplate. She can see you like this because you frown and laugh, too. Now, do you believe she’s upset that you wrote this? She is not. She’s happy — very happy — because you are growing by listening to more. We say you are growing and changing, just what we wish all readers, for when they contemplate, they consider “new” and “ready-for-more-than-what-exists-in-their-Now.”

    Denise, we believe Love struggles through you. This is how we see it. Do you?

    Love, Joanie’s guide, David, the host, The Ones Who Are Divine: Mother Mary, Jesus, Mary of Magdala, the Angels: Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Auriel, Uriel, and the angels who love you, and hope you enjoy what we write you, for they want only good for you in your heart

    #13416
    denise
    Member

    Yes, love hurts.

    Love everybody, and some will not love you back.
    Love everybody, and you are vulnerable to hurt.

    Love a little, love a lot…
    so many kinds and degrees of love.
    Love with passion or love with companionship?
    Which one prevails?
    Depends on who you love most.
    Sometimes love for your children prevails.

    Yes love hurts.

    Sometimes people act like they love you, but they tell you they don’t.
    Sometimes people tell you they love you, but they don’t act like it.

    Sometimes you love people and they don’t love you back in the same way.
    Sometimes people love you but you don’t love them back in the same way.

    Somtimes you love people who hurt you.
    Sometimes you hurt people you love.

    Sometimes you love people who leave.
    Sometimes you want to leave people who love you.

    That’s why loving people isn’t enough.
    Love yourself.
    Love God.
    Love without limits is only in heaven.
    Where love won’t hurt anymore,
    Where love is unconditional and forever.

    #13418
    Joanie
    Member

    Dear Denise,

    Your piece is beautiful. I was moved by it. There are pieces that make me wonder. Others are magnificent in what they capture. Others, simply written, convey truths that are difficult to write about at length. This work is your understanding of Love and how it affects us all.

    Thank you for offering heartfelt words on Book of Light. I appreciate the Love you put here for me and us all.

    Blessings,

    Joanie

    #13419
    Joanie
    Member

    Dear David and The Divine Ones,

    I have several questions regarding the children who are presently incarnated at this moment before The Ascension.

    First, will all children be offered the choice to ascend, or do they automatically ascend? I channeled that they will hear music and Know what is happening at the moment of
    The Shift.

    Second, if a child has previously lived lives into adulthood, and they are presently a child in this incarnation before The Shift, will they remain a child or become an adult if they ascend?

    Finally, I have read that those who ascend will increase their longevity by 100-150 years if their present age is approximately 50 years. Why might a soul “expire” if they are eternal? I believe this refers to those who have chosen to have a physical experience.

    Thank you, and many blessings,

    Joanie

    #13420
    Joanie
    Member

    Thank you, Joanie, for bringing up these questions. Several folks ask you this, as you ask yourself these questions, too. We say the following:

    You are here to witness The Ascension. You are to watch, looking through wonder-filled eyes, at miracles unfolding presently, as well as upcoming — soon — very soon… (smiles) We say children, too, are here to witness miracles. Their eyes are filled with wonder, though several sparks are out and need re-lighting.

    OK. The children are here, yet they wish things to happen before they leave. Some Crystals come in to advance themselves and offer Love, Light to you. Some Indigos come in to strengthen themselves and tighten the reins on others. Rainbows are ones lit up — aflame. They wish many things like taking care of those with issues, while also donning hats of Valor, Peace. Tremendous work they do — the Rainbow children. OK. Diamonds are special. They work on Light so it glimmers well in the eyes of those who are not looking/seeing Light. We put them in front of those who are “blind” to Life.

    Now, the children who hear music: The music will spellbind them. It makes them go to Heaven — the music. It is our lullaby. (smile) (Joanie’s note: My ears are ringing loudly as I channel this.) We sing songs so they come directly over to us. Will the children ascend? The children ascend when they hear music. It is for those to hear it who will ascend. If some do, it is because music was the messenger. If not, they continue living here where the Spirit is not residing. Some leave, go to places for more learning. All children choose. Each one decides if the “music message” sings to them. If they believe Love fills hearts, this, we believe, will answer the question, “Do I stay or go?” What do you think about this, Joanie? Is it beautiful? I believe you see this as fantastic, for you love music very much. (Joanie: I think it’s beautiful. Music will reach them.)

    OK. Now we address the child-adult question: Are you asking if the child moves to adulthood at Ascension? (Joanie: Yes.) Then we say, “The child is a child now. They grow and continue as a child till adulthood is achieved.” This is the way it works: The soul is young here. It goes through stages. Fast forward would not help speed learning by aging the soul/spirit. So, the child, now, shifts to child there (here where we are) and continues as a child. When it is an adult, it reaches new levels of insight, greater maturity, and many opportunities still. OK?

    Let’s get to the age question: You see, you are 48. (You are 17, though, dear little one. (laughter, smiles) OK, the point is that you feel young — very young. You will age as you feel older, not as you number it up the board. We say you are 48, feeling 17, and will be 17 as you age. The 17 year old will be 17 for as long as you are believing, feeling, knowing you are 17. This is good. You figured the key to life: If you live and like LIfe and Love, and you love others tremendously, you’ll live young, dear Joanie. The words they say about age. Well, if one wishes 100-150 years more, sure, fine, go ahead. We believe the “age” you are is in your body, mind, soul, heart, spirit.

    Take a poll. How many feel young? I feel you are few and far between. Keep the Love flowing in your heart. You’ll remain young always.

    Love, David, the guide who loves you very much, Archangels Michael, Gabriel, Uriel, Samuel, Raphael; Jesus, Mary Magdala, Mother Mary, and all the friends you love and cherish who await your return

    #13422
    denise
    Member

    David,

    I think everybody FEELS young. Bodies age, minds/spirits don’t. Most of my friends are essentially the same as in high school. We wonder where the years have gone. I feel most young when I am in love. I feel most old when I am trudging through things I hate (like getting up for work on Monday mornings.)

    Yesterday we went to the cemetary for a historical tour. Every October the historical society in my town has actors pretend to be certain dead people in the museum, and people walk by candlelight (and flashlights if you bring one) from table to table “meeting” these people and seeing pictures and artifacts from their lives and times. It is very cool and we do it every year.

    My 12 year old Jessica started asking me questions about her dead grandparents (my husbands parents) and i told her about it. We started to talk more about death and I told her I would rather be creamated. She started to cry “I dont want to talk about it anymore, I dont want to talk anymore.” She was so sad and scared all night. I didnt know what to say. I tried to explain about death not being the end but she wouldnt listen to any more. WHAT should I have said to make her feel better???

    I know that if she doesn’t go to the light, and if I can’t get her to go, then I would stay behind too because I love her so much and she needs me. And I need her. She’s the love of my life. How can I teach her more? What can/should I teach her?

    My husband rejects religion and spirituality of all kinds, and though we started out in the Roman Catholic church, some “Holier than thou” people from our church really turned me OFF to going, and I never fell in love with the new church, and nobody in my family would come with me anymore as they got older, so we all stopped going. Sometimes I watch it on TV but most times I just read and think and, as you know, I believe the pieces I believe now and no more.

    Thanks.
    Denise

    #13417
    Joanie
    Member

    Dear Denise,

    We see you are taking time to talk. Good. We feel this improves, or enables you to grow.

    So, we have age. The spirit is funny. It believes what you, the conscious, 3D, middle self believes, yet it goes to a place of calm, resignation, acceptance till the 3D self is moved to a level of understanding. OK. How are you doing? We give you lots — lots to mull over or contemplate. Good.

    Now, your daughter is taking the information and making a whimsical notion that the body, disintegrated, is not mom. “No! It’s gone! Where are you, (mom)?” So, she has to see the truth: The person is a body with a spirit inside. The spirit leaves. The body goes away over time. This is what you could say to her: “The spirit is fine. I’m here, always. I don’t go to sleep, disappear, never to visit or shake you in sleep so you know I’m there. (smile) I remain by you forever.”

    Now, did you go too far? Nothing is wrong. You were “heart.” Your heart tried to let her know, “Hey. It’s OK. You are to learn this so you can grow. I love you.” Now, if you pushed her, saying, “I sure will croak and then death will overtake me. Then I’ll corrode,” you would surely terrify your love of a girl. We believe you did fine. I believe she thinks you are to remain with her. True? If she does, do you wish to keep her believing this? Or would you prefer she believe we all die, separate, yet remain together in spirit eternally? I believe you would like her to grow, yet you want her by you always. This is conflicted and you will need to figure why you do this.

    Can you change her feelings? No. She is to do this for herself. You are to work with issues of your feelings and change so she shifts because you did. See? It’s a part of the Plan — to grow while she grows. See? See her grow as you grow, Denise. (Beautiful…)

    Re: her going, staying, with or without you: You have to see, or do we mean, must. No, should. OK… can see if you choose to see that she will choose, not you. You are to be a mom who goes if she wishes Light. You see she can choose because she’s able to distinguish “heart and Love” from “ugly, old, dirty, Hate.” OK. Is she really able to distinguish Love from War? Pestilence from Monumental Joy? Active Hate from Love Everlasting? I believe — we believe so. Yes, Denise. Your daughter is very capable of figuring whether Love rules or Hate does. You cannot imagine the children able to do this? Yes. Possible. Very possible.

    Getting her to go. It’s like pushing someone to eat a food they like. (smile) Do you see? That’s all I have to say regarding this. (smile) (Joanie’s note: David is shining Love upon you now.)

    Teach her patience. She is impatient and wishes you are to teach her this. If you can guide her regarding waiting till she can have a chance at something, she can grow further. Now, what do you wish to teach her? Do you want religion to be a focus? (giggles) Do you wish empty stories of Love gone by? (giggles) Would you like her to know secrets — deep ones? (chuckles)

    We think life is filled with lessons for her. You teach by example, having acquired knowledge through experience. All your teachings of Life include Love, Lust, Learning. They encompass mild-mannered ways versus brusk, abrupt ways to be. You model generosity, fun, kindness. All your words are to be framed so she hears Love, Forgiveness, Truth to Self and Others.

    Now we ask, “What have you taught her so she would choose Light versus Dark?” If you answer this and see what you respond — actually look at what you answer — you’ll feel a sense of satisfaction. You accomplished much in the way of teaching your daughter Love, Denise. She blossoms by your watering her with goodness. You are the caretaker of the rose. She is happy. We love you and wish you such good moments, always, with her — your love.

    Love, David, as always, the host; a few friends: Archangels Michael, Gabriel, Samuel, Auriel, Uriel, Raphael, the healer; Tremendous patience, Jesus has (smiles). Mother Mary loves you and your work, dear. Mary Magdalene is beaming. She is happy you like your job as mother — lover of daughter.

    You are beautiful. We beam knowing the love you have for her. Thank you for loving her, Denise.

    Always, Joanie, the scribe wishes to say you are a honeypie. (Joanie smiles) xo

    #13423
    julie
    Member

    Dear David and Divine Ones:
    I have been reading and re-reading the segments on love…I am sorry it has taken me so long to write what I have been thinking… I hope it is o.k. that I ask a lot of questions…
    I feel like I understand the love you speak of…I feel it at times (or do i?). There is this easy connection and great love and gratitude for everything and everyone…like pure love…perfect and wonderful just the way it is. These are the times I feel most full, most like the me inside of me. But then I feel like I slip down the rabbit hole and am plunged into a deep well..confused and stuck I can’t figure out how to get back to where I was or how or why I slipped and fell so far. And then I am stuck and caught up in the regular world and no matter how hard I try, I can not get back to where I was. Why does this happen? Is this love that I feel a glimpse of the love you speak of? Why, if I know where I want to be can I not find my way back there? How do I find my way?
    I have read that you can not truly love others if you do not truly love yourself. Is this true? I have struggled for very long with self-love, but I find that I have a great love for other people, animals, earth. Is this possible? I just really like people (and animals, and plants, that asphalt over there is also pretty nice..) Even when I try not to love them them, the loves leaks out from the bottom of my foot and drips a trail all the way back to them. Why can I not love myself so much but have a deep love for everyone else? Maybe the love I feel for others is not a good love, maybe there is selfishness or neediness??? I read once that you must be able to detach from your loved ones in order to be able to reach that state of pure love…I guess being able to love everyone equally. I have trouble detaching from the blind man who plays the accordion on the subway, let alone my own children. Is this detachment really something that needs to be achieved in order to reach that place of love?
    And speaking of attachment…when we ascend (and if I am allowed and ready to ascend) do we ascend with our children…do we all go our separate ways? Will my little ones be able to go together If I am not able to go with them?
    Thank you, David and Divine Ones for all your guidance.
    (Thank you, Joanie Bobonie for all of your work)!
    Much Love,
    Julisa

    #13427
    Joanie
    Member

    Dear, dear Julie/Julisa/Juliet of the Magii,

    We call you names of beauty. You are pretty worthy, dear. We say so worthy. You speak of the worth. You are deserving of Love, Ascension. We do not have a person at the Gates of Heaven who says, “You, Julie! You can’t enter.” We believe you question whether you are worthy. We say you are and this is so.

    The glimmer of Light shines, then strikes. It pours down. You see sparks of God-like images fall. These are ships. You see beautiful people fasten to you. You will find hair. You will see glory. You will love — just love what you have before you. Dear one, you can announce your ride to us as we call your number. (smiles) The day is soon and you go with wings. It is our story — the one of Truth — to say that the day heralds Love so all the universe can ride on Earth’s planetary shift. The universe will shift because you do. Yes, you create shifts.

    Ah! You smile. We see glints of memories inside of Love. So, we get to each question:

    Re: Questions: Many are fine. She (Joanie) writes because she enjoys her work on Earth through us here at Home. (chuckles to laughter) Do not think you cannot ask.

    Re: Do I feel this?: We say you question Love, or the Love we describe. We feel the Love that is inside Heart is the Love you feel. You question. Why question? What did Love do that has you question it, for it stands there, full, beautiful. We believe you love. Period. (smile)

    Re: Slipped Love and confusion: You are loving and then you fall. We see you have experienced numerous lives of loss, separation, ones of pain. Remembering is important. She (Joanie) can bring you in conscious reflection of these times. Each one (life issue) is to see whether you can release the sad trauma. Some will help release without remembering. She (Joanie) releases with the assistance of Sirian, Pleiadian, Archturian, Andromedan and Vegan friends. We wish to say the help is good. If you wish, speak to her and discuss how this can be arranged. (Joanie’s note: I also receive assistance from Ascended Masters, Archangels, guides, angels, and departed ones.)

    OK. Why high then low? You remember full Love then you forget. The forgetting is close to memories of pain and sadness. Then you cry because you “lost” Love. You never “lose” Love. It recedes. This is all. Do not worry. You are fine. Men and women experience this when they have had lives of loss, separation, etc. Continue journeying and Truth, Love will shine. Balance is key, dear. You will find balance as you see the memories fade.

    Re: The Love we speak of: Yes, the “pure Love” you describe seems to be what overwhelms you so. We feel the people who feel Love — great, overwhelming Love — are ones who see visions of worlds where all love one another. We believe you See, Know this, dear. We know you do. So, if this is good, so it is.

    Re: Why can’t I return when I want to?: The reason you are stuck is because you feel loss. The loss is separate from Love inside you. Love sits, waits. You feel. You don’t. You feel. You don’t. It sits, waiting to feel. So, you don’t and you cry. If you remind yourself Love sits, always, you will feel beautiful, happy, content, resigned to all. What? Resigned to all? Yes. We believe you are to resign yourself to the fact that Beauty, Peace come from resignation that all is as it should. We believe you do not see this. We believe you wish different places and scenarios and situations to have their say instead of what currently exists.

    When you sit, you stare. We believe if you glanced, rather than scrutinized you would soften your gaze. This is typical of Love-ers of the world. You wish Peace, Joy when there’s lots of war and hate. So, what do you think?

    Re: Finding my way: We believe you are — you are finding your way. Your way is the Now. Yes. rRght here now, here, now, here… The way. We see you wanting much now, yet you have much now. Is it difficult to wait? Hmm. OK. What do you think? You find your way by remaining in the present and listening to the heart. Yes, heart. Mind helps. Heart answers. Go try to meditate and see what answers. Try. It can take 15 minutes.

    Re: Loving yourself before loving others: You can love others before loving yourself. If you do love yourself, the Love is stronger, steadier, consistent. At least if the person is consistent. (laughter) We know some love when they cannot, do not love themselves. Sad. True. It is possible.

    Re: Loving them more than yourself: You love because your person-being is able to share so much. It is beautiful. We see how you do this. Now, you have issues, concerns that keep you from the self-love. You were harmed (in past lives) and this prevents you from finding the self-love now. Please see her (Joanie) and she can eliminate the issues so you can go towards a lighter, happier love of self. (Joanie Bobonie eliminates issues with her cosmic assistants.) (laughter) You are not selfish or needy. You are able to love, yet issues/concerns eliminate areas where you can freely feel this Love. You are healing. Yes, you are!

    Re: Detachment from others in order to achieve pure Love: We say detachment is not the way one feels, nor is it an abilit;y we wish one develop. Detachment is fear based. Now, you “over love,” or “over charge” yourself and go too much towards spreading Light when your own flickers/fades and peter’s out. You see this? You burn out. No need. Pull back some. Your Light shining is blinding you! No. We want you to feel it, so please shine yourself with Light, Love. OK? Try this. It is
    good, healthy. Creative self-lovers would say, “Take the chalk. Write on the board, ‘I love myself,’ one hundred times.” (laughter) We love you and say you are a honeypie. (Joanie’s word) (She says to us, laughing, “My filter! What did you do?!)

    Re: Permission slip for Ascension Trip: (laughter) You need no permission. All are allowed on the “bus trip to Heaven.” We admit unity conscious, like-minded persons who wish life to be better, more grand — a little like Oz, but better. (great laughter)

    Re: Ready to be on bus trip to Heaven (aka: Ascension): We believe you will be ready.

    Re: Do we ascend with our children?: We say you are concerned. This is human. Possible. Yes. If one ascends, their children ascend if the little (or big) ones chosse to. Many go because their energy is so peaceful, beautiful, aligned that they take off like rocketfire. Yes. It is easy to decide when one is young (not an adult). The adult chooses in a way that makes the self worry if they make the “right” decision. We know there are souls who know, Know they are Light and ready to go. Others wait and figure, “If this is so, what will I do if all is Peace, Joy, Love? This does not help me if I cannot complain, argue and all. So, I’ll choose another story. Not Ascension.” Do you see? You are choosing. They choose. It is separate. Not together. Many go along, yet many choose to stay. It matters by family ties and relations with others who influence children about Light and Dark.

    Re: Separation of parents from children at The Shift: We believe every one — every individual — chooses stories. If the story is to be with one and another — if they agree to tell a story together — it is written. If you wish a story with them, and they wish to complete sentences with you (write a screenplay together), it will be. (smile)

    Re: You and them, together, separate?: We see you together. (smiles)

    Now, we’d like to sing: “Joanie Woanie Gabonie, Joanie Woanie Gabonie…” How’s that Julie? Does that bring you to the living room with the kids? We love her with the kids. She’s a heck of a mom. (smiles)

    Love, David, the host of the day, Angels Michael, Gabriel, Uriel, Samuel, Auriel, Raphael; the Divine “inspirators”: Jesus, Mary Magdala, Mother Mary; many others who are watching you grow, change today. They say, “We want you to live peacefully, dear. Trust us. It’s fine. You are safe. All is well.”

    xo to you, dear one.
    _______________

    Joanie’s note: Please go to Joanie’s Healing Sessions forum post dated 10/18/11 for infomation on what I do in sessions with clients.

    #13425
    denise
    Member

    Julie
    Thank you for posting. We all benefit from the answers. You can see how much you are loved by heaven. You must be a very special person. Love yourself.
    Denise

    #13434
    Joanie
    Member

    David’s Guidance – 10/23/11: “You Are a Piece of Work”

    OK, friends. This joke is on you. Yes. We say the piece is about your work — the work you do. You all work. Some work here. Others there. Some take breaks. Others do not. This is a piece about your work.

    OK. Here we say, “When you go to work, do you see value in your effort to make more of the world? Do you see if the effort you put in is valuable? Do you see effort put in? Do you see? Do you?” We want one to look at their day. Each day is complicated, for it involves the day-to-day same ol’ activity on top of errands, chores, you name it. Struggling might be a word some use to describe a day in the life…

    The work you do involves distributing energy. The energy you put forth affects many others during your day. Do you think the energy you put into work is valuable to yourself? How is it valuable? Do you believe the effort you place in work is good for others, too? How? Take a look at why you work. Who makes you do this? How often do you work? Why does it take so much from you? Who is paying you? Have you seen money? Is the bill paid?

    We ask many questions so you begin seeing whether the energy you place in work is satisfying, remunerating, and helping the world. If you answer, “Yes” to three here, you are fortunate. If you say, “I am paid, I love this,” yet the world is not getting positive benefits, we say, “Can you alter what you do? Can you change outcomes? Do you see new possibilities?”

    We say these things because our point of view, from here in “Heaven” is different. We see actions as Love-based, and the value here is placed on serving God and others so one can rise, grow, teach another Love, expand, learn more, do more — all souls sharing gifts so the next will see, know, feel more than before.

    Trust the words. They are sincere. We are suggesting you take a moment to look closely at the profession you’ve chosen. How does it help — truly help — others? Can you see why we ask? If you are helping, this increases the vibration on Earth. The Ascension comes, and with it, awareness. Your help involves raising vibrations to the point where many can come here and see Love in Glory — real Glory.

    You imagine we talk fluff. We talk heights that are unimaginable, unspeakable, untrue. Well, we only give Light-hearted words that are true. If you wish, we’ll say this: If people rise higher, more go to the Light if they choose this avenue at the point at The Shift. If you see this, you’ll understand that work puts energy into the mass consciousness. Energy emits — well… frequencies are put out that shape your way of being.

    If you live for work, and the work is used to make widgets, do the widgets raise the consciousness of the world?

    “OK. So, you want me to quit my job.” “Hhm. That’s funny. I’m looking for a job.” “I’m working to put food on the table.” “I like, no love what I do, yet it doesn’t ‘help’ anyone.”

    This is true — these comments are common to most of you. That is why we bring this up. Take a moment to imagine a place where all beings work together, creating harmonious landscaptes, pieces of art, truly fabulous works for the universe so all could grow. This is the near future at Ascension. This is what we see you living in: A world of compassion, guided by Love Everlasting.

    If you can see a world that is Love-guided, create it now. Make dreams happen. Be a world changer. Do what moves you so others can be more. Can you do this? Are you able to be more? Can you create dreams so one goes up rather than down?

    We like hearing what you think and feel. What do you think? Please write if you are confused, too.

    Now, the boy writes, “Hey. I’ve got a job that takes me places. I get to work, see shows, make trips, get paid, and have fun after hours. What’s wrong with this?” We say, “Hey. If the shows work for you, good.. If the shows are helping you and others, good. But if not, switch events so others will find you helping more than hurting. OK? Question?” “Yeah. I don’t know why you say this.” “You are here to help. See if this (work) helps you or others. That’s all we ask of you.”

    The boy’s example: Remarkable, yet not. Many are having fun, yet the work is not helping raise the consciousness. We like “help” versus “thwart” or “stymie.”

    “OK, to you.”

    “I have fun, too. I enjoy helping myself by making money so I can spend it. What’s wrong?” I like your candid nature. OK. When you sit, make money, spend, sit, make money, spend, who wins? Who is learning? What is achieved? Why are you spending? For what? Who is winning? We see you spinning a patterned web — circular, at best — that creates a vacuum. All energy remains insular to you. The experience is inward-based. When we speak of Love, it reaches outward. Efforts — energy — are directed to others so each and every one soul is touched and they can fly, if they choose, higher and faster, farther, longer than the moment before you worked, energizing the universe with Love and Hope.

    Now, why do we do this now? Why now? You fly Home and we see this. We wish trips short, vastly invigorating, smiles on passengers as arrival to destinations is successful, complete with totes filled with essentials of your choosing. We see happy campers moving to places they knew, as well as new places to visit and explore. If we place ideas here for you, some may choose to shift, seeing how energy affects others.

    The Ascension is soon. We love your calibrated bodies readying for take-off. (laughter) Your crystalline body frame is complete by 2012 and your heart thumps in anticipation.

    Go look. You’ll see you are different. The picture fades as a new one emerges, brighter than before.

    Now, we go to him. The one who is angry. He is wondering why I say this. I answer, “I say this so you can see more. I say this so you can be more. I say this so your energy you put here on Earth be taken more seriously. Many people wish to see your work, and you hide in line with others. If you take time to sit, you’ll understand. It is difficult to shift when angry. Soften some, OK? Talk (to us) if you wish. We love you.”

    Now I wish to leave with this: Can you change from the one who works, striving for “success” to one who energizes Earth to “success” as measured by hearts opened?

    We love and adore you. We encourage all to work so the Love is spread so far that galaxies erupt with Light and Light befalls new worlds. Thank you for your time, dear ones.

    Love, David, the host; the Angels on High: Michael, Uriel, Gabriel, Raphael, Samuel, Auriel, Ezekiel; many helpers of Love: Jesus, Mother Mary, Mary Magdalena; and more servants who work hard to provide nourishment for souls who crave Love at every meal (smiles)

    Joanie: Thank you, always. xo

    #13431
    denise
    Member

    David,

    What are you suggesting we DO if our job does not “helping the world”? In this complicated world where we live, we need to have a job to make money to feed our kids. Not everybody can be an enlightener. We can’t all hear you and write your words like Joanie…but we still have families to feed.

    Is doing other things enough? Can we bring love into the world outside of work too? We can use the money we make to help others. We can do free but loving things like help a friend or give advice or show compassion or comfort the sad. We can write encouraging words for people to read. We can sponsor a child in a poor region. We can donate items, support charities, pray for people. What else can/should we do if we cannot find a job that creates love in the world?

    Or– let’s say we decide we want to take your advice. We want to alter what we do. Find something to make the world a better place. What kind of work is really valuable? How can we increase the vibration on earth?

    And last (I know, here we go again…) if the Ascension is within the year, then do we even have enough TIME to change our worlds so we can make the world a better place? It takes time to learn a new job, start a business, or create a masterpiece. What can we do NOW?

    Thanks for the advice. I always wanted to do something that could change the world, even just the world of a few.

    Love and Light
    Denise

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