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My Love to All! Its been awhile since I have spoken here but I have been keeping track and it’s wonderful to see all come together for answers to questions!
My Self I am constantly in change for the good and foresee a big happening here to all and that is why we chose to be here at this time!
What’s in a name; just a way to call someone I will refer to David as that is how I learned to know him!
David and friends 🙂 do you see Ghia leaving as has been stated or staying and completeing it’s job for this beautiful planet despite man’s overwellmeing attempt at controll? If so will be a forboding experince for all that reside on this planet and I mean man,plants, and those other animals that show no understanding?
Humans were given a chance with technology and insite to life but as a group because of the few we have erred dearly and the cost will be great;is this a correct statment in your knowing or am I wrong?
You have alway’s made light of the events that happen here and I understand that and find it fun, but this could be a very serious time for humanity and all other life that we have abused! Do you see hard times ahead for humanity because of a few dark soles?
Thankyou in advance for whatever answer you give because you are our only contact on the other side of the veil that has shown a strait and honest answer!
Blessy You All; I suppose to steal a phrase “What will be will be “.
Bless You All!! 😉
JohnjldyMemberYou need not weep at being judged! It is Joanie who deliver’s the messages that I appreciate! It is David and Friends who bring the messages who I listen to and it is me who does not pass judgement on the statements you make! I beleive that which I wish to and if you are who you say you are then revelling yourself is your wish and you must feel a need to do so. It means I will listen closer 🙂 . It is a huge statement you bring forth but not unbeleivable but maybe questionable; because as humans, a free thinking race we question everything! Please keep on with your messages and not worry about who you are and I wont!
Love and PeacejldyMemberThanks to your Scribe Joanie 🙂 I am able to speak with you and hear……well read your answer’s! Things are changing here and I am never sure what is going to happen! It seems everyone has their own idea’s and message’s; so I listen to my gut feeling’s and of course Joanie or should I say you 😉 . I am strong and positive in what I believe yet I’m alway’s looking for verification. Being here, human is a disadvantage when it comes to the truth ,so I have to trust my judgement……..and it’s not alway’s right 🙂 .
I take all of what I hear as heresay until the truth bites me in the ass and opens my eye’s otherwise I spend most of my time in the dark! I listen and look for the light that I know is there and when it’s ment to be I will find it!
I am a being who believe’s in love and happiness and togetherness; I wish to not hurt or hate or place myself above others. It feels good to be this way. I would make a poor soldger now that all anger and hate has left me! Yes I used to have those feelings during my younger years but not to a great degree just when I would see injustess’s; their is no place in my soul for that now or ever again I prey!
I love the way you throw words around in such a lite hearted way as it gives me hope that I will see all that I believe come to be!
Their are so many souls looking to be lead in the right direction because over here they are lost right now and your kind words help to lead and lighten the heart!
Looking forward to some tea with guy’s!! 😉jldyMemberI must say I love this forum! To David and his friends I send my love! It’s been a while since I’ve commented but well here I am 🙂 and full of questions. I’ve enjoyed the banter I’ve been watching but it seems to have died down ……..so here I am 😉 .
I have often wondered if there is more then one reason that souls come to earth? Is it possible that besides to learn and become better souls; is it also possible that after living thur eternity (which I cannot possibly imagine) that existence became a little boreing and the idea of the veil was produced also for entertainment(just a question 😕 ) as well as to better ourselves?
Also I was wondering where the souls went before earth had humans on it or if being human even matters? I beleive the universe is teaming with life,so is it possible the human form has been around for a long time and desired or are there other forms as or more desireable?
I have been following your messages and am very much intrigued by them and realize that the time is close for these things to take place! I look forward to them. Thanks for keeping us in the loop!
You guy’s are so fun loveing and are loved 🙂 .jldyMemberHello My Friends:
I am in awe of the messages you send and look forward to the things you speak of, But I am a worrywart; yes a worrywart 😮 . I consider Joanie as a friend and a brave one at that! Thru my time here I Have seen Jehova witness’s promise the end on certain date’s which have long past; Evangalist preaching the end is near; In fact most religion’s preach the human race is doomed, so what am I saying?
I am worried that Joanie passing your message’s may be villified if what you say does not come to be? How sure are you in your message’s that what you say will be, because it is Joanie here on earth who will answer if your message’s fail to happen! I understand things change and are not in your control but other people are not so understanding and I do not want to see her reputation damaged because things change and things do change!!
It is up to you to look after her and be sure of your message’s as your not here to answer for what you say! I look to the future as here in the third demension there is a past,present,and future and the present is where we are alway’s in! Love you guy’s and what you say ; Look after Joanie!!!
John 🙂jldyMemberTo all the people who speak here and to those who answer here ; as you know Love is the way! My life started when I found My truth ; that which worked for me and answer’s my unending questions! Iwas when I realized that life is unending ,it just changes form. That my family and friends who have left here are happy and busy and will be there for me when I leave here; they are full of love and happiness, are busy as indiviguals doing that which they wish to do. They now know the facts and are more then what they were here as we all will be someday! They learn ,they teach ,they prepare for continuation of there life’s.
This is my truth and I came to it after much searching and spiritualism provided the facts I needed to get me to the right frame of mind! I take nothing for granted ,I continue my research and alway’s come back to the same truth I have found, just verifying for me my belief. But I do know there is alway’s someone who know’s more so I constantly listen with an open mind; their is alway’s more to learn!
But feel happy and free in knowing that those you are close to you and are gone are waiting for you 😀 . Have love in your heart, help those you can and do not feel sad for loved one’s gone for they are happier then ever!! Enjoy your life ,pass on your wisdom to those who want it and understand those who dont.
Your Friend in this Life and alway’s!jldyMemberDavid,I shake your hand and slap your shoulder 🙂 as a friend would! In a world where religion just about rules it, and not just one religion but many with many people with different ideas of what each one means for each religion; this makes for a mess of idea’s and a lot of confused people!!
Joanie put online for anyone to see her experience’s with her religion which open’s her up for much critizem for her religious peers…….This takes GUT’S and in my opinion she is a HERO for boldly going where no one dares to go( I kinda stole that 😉 ). People need to start seeing religion for what it is and that is to let the few control the mass’s!! We all want to beleive there is a place to go after deathand most people go to or are born into a religion for peace of mind! If this gives them that then this is good for them but they should understand the truth is that those who now run these buisness’s are mostly looking for money and think little of the indivigual. Now this is not true of ALL but most; so I do no throw them all in the same bowl as people but religion’s as a whole is a way to control people!
It’s the reason I found spiritualism and do not consider it a religion. It put no demands on people, doesnt tell you what to do or where to go; spiritualism explains things but then will tell you to use what works for you and to learn and do things in your own time! Of course thee are those who take advantage of peple as with religion but you can learn what you want in your own fashion with no pressure!!And to me it’s the TRUTH! But the thats just me . 😎
Of course Joanie’s a hero to me; she has walked a long hard road and found her way and wants her people to understand her feelings and why!
Most people do not like to discuss religion as it is such a contensious topic so you bet I think Joanie is brave because she did it!
Religion should be discussed without fighting because nobody can win that discussion but it needs to be discussed especially now because the truth is out there to be found if you want to and it needs to be found by many!
I never belonged to a religion but as I aged and things happened I started my own life long search and was lucky to have my pick and not be born into one so I learned fast that religion was not for me!
It’s impossible to be neutral in a world wide discussion that is at mostly wispered about; it’s time to speak up and speak up LOUD and be proud (a little ryme 😉 ).
So I say yes joanie is a hero; if only people would listen!!!! 😯jldyMemberWow; I certainly appreciate what everyone has to say as that is what this is about! But Bigfeet is certainly more proficient with words then I could possibly be! Now for the facts! Well My Facts!
Joanie , I love your Bravery in dareing to approach a discussion on Religion. I understand you have your reasons for this and I applaud them! I suppose I was lucky to be raised in a home that was non-denominational and I was left to find my own way as far as religion goe’s! I am 64 this year and I alway’s new there was more to life then met the eye; I just could not put my finger on it. When my Grandmother died (who I loved dearly) when I was 17 I started to ask myself questions about what such a waste life was if all that learning and knowledge dissappered at death……so I started my quest for the truth! It was only when my mother died (my best friend) that I really started to dig! I could find no solace in any religion except maybe Buddism. But still My answers were not to be found until I met Spiritualism; not a religion but a way of life that put no burdens on you nor asked for nothing and gave all the answers that made sense!
I understand what the jewish people have been thru and I say shame on those who look down on others for whatever excuse, because there is none. It must have been so hard for Joanie to speak of these things and I am proud she found a way for I’m sure it is a load off her shoulders; but it has opened up another can of worms because we all have our own idea’s of what is right ; well I say we are all right; If you are satisfied with your belief then good for you but do not pass judgement on others and Joanie cetainly does not do that! She loves people for who they are and if someone is interested in her truth then she is there to tell and if they are not then she loves just the same!
I applaude your openmindeness and willingness to bring this forward and if people are fare and open minded they will say this!
I was so happy to find spiritualism but that doesnt mean I agree with all spiritualist but I listen and use what works for me as all religious people should do because we all see life from different perspectives .
It took me a long time to reach this point and I have so much more to learn so I listen to all without judgement and appreciate people like Joanie trying to help others and being so honest!
Realize the truth when you hear it even if it hurts because it helps you grow!
Joanie’s is a Hero to me!!!
😀jldyMemberI enjoy the you guy’s talk; if I coould hear you I would hear a strong accent 🙂 . I didnt have a great life but I’ll say it again for clairification; I am not angry, sad or shamed; I just have a heart and feel for children!
I think maybe you guy’s forget I am human and feel human and react as a human to what happens around me even knowing what I know and even then I’m not sure! It’s very confusing you know 😉
How long has it been since you guy’s went thru this process? I bet you didnt lose your heart and I know you wouldnt want to?
So signing off as a human 🙂 and rolling on, collecting no moss; you dont know how much I appreciate your input . There’s nothing like a conversation to clear things up!
John smileing off 🙂jldyMemberI never new my father but my dear mother sure suffered with bone cancer till she died! I have read “Your Souls Plan” and I understand his explanation of planning prebirth. And Yes I realiize we are here to learn and grow into better beings and pay for some past stupidity but I also think we are here to learn to be compastionate,and understanding and have real honest feelings for other’s. I am not angry I just need to understand to what degree do we go to for a lesson to be learned? That starving baby know’s not why he or she suffers until after death; I think that is the point I am trying to make
I dont want to be calous and look the other way at someone’s suffering just because he preplanned it, I think that would be ludicrious and go against everything I am.
As a human I must respond to these thing’s or else it would harm my soul in a negative way!
Like you say ; The Veil is Thick and I can only learn of the otherside thru much…..very much studying and listening and consentration until I die. I understand much now and am proud of that but I am still human and must weed out the chaff ; so much more to learn 🙂 soooooo much!
I will never stop questioning things or asking questions because thats how I grow. I need to understand not because I am sad or angry or burdened but because it is the way I am!
Sorry for such a serious bunch of questions; it’s just hearing it from you make’s it clearer to me. So here’s a Big Smile 😀 and a pat on the bum until we talk again. 😉
John 😎jldyMemberNot Offended or overwelmed Julie but Thankful to hear from people like yourself; very Thankful! But really David……….”Indian Chief ” I’m glad to hear from anyone but a name would be nice 🙂 .
I’m the kindof person who needs justification for things I do not understand; it’s not a matter of being sad or negative but needing to know the truth…..the real truth of reason’s behind such viale things! When I can make sense of something I will then move on to something else that craps me out!
I’m at a point now in my life that I feel I have found most of my answer’s thanks to you guy’s but there are still some things I need to clearup in my head! I am happy and certain in the direction’s I have taken ; so now is the time to clear up the obscure as much as is possible! So bear with me knowing I am a happy guy not stuck on negativity but digging the hard answers up. 😉
Man it’s tuff being Human ; I’ll be glad when the shoe’s on the other foot. 😀 For time being a figament of the imagination this life is excrusiateingly long!
Is it possible that lving on the otherside gets boring enough some souls will do anything for excitment? Is is possible that no matter how well meaning some souls are that they lose direction and things here happen differently then should? Are there many different roads to one end ?
You see thesse are the type of things I wonder about! Maybe I wonder to much ? 🙂
ThankYou for All Your help and Joanie for all her patience!
And Once again Julie I look forward to all the input from everyone because it helps me to grow!
Curious John 😉jldyMemberLife should be like a fine song or a warm summer day,or a musical interlude that never ends. Love is in the eye’s of the beholder and the soul of the giver!!! Of course that is not the world we live in.
I am troubled and I need clarification!
There is nothing more amazing then to hold a new born life and see the love and need in their eye’s saying I need you!The most inocent, the newest on the planet,holding their hands out for guidance and help looking for love and deserving it ;saying guide me teach me feed me,dont let me down! They know no better;they know not the reason or direction of their life so where is the lesson in that?? Adults pay for their past live’s but why should a 1 year old baby starve to death; where is the lesson in that? Children are the true innocent of the world and grow and learn from our direction. But how can they learn when there is no chance to grow or learn; when there is no direction? I cry for these children and our society thru media makes sure you see this that you cannot do anything about; Now we are all suffering…….and for what? how can a child carry into the next life a 1 year llife of pain and suffering of which they have no control? Where is the justice in this;Where? I hurt because I can do nothing; I hurt because they do and get lost in the suffering! It’s like saying Hitlers Ovens were necessary!!!
I do not think you can help me understand such horror but I ask for your input as I respect and love you all.
John in a moment of reflection that never leave’sjldyMemberI am so sorry that I cannot comment on each person here but I get more out of reading what you have to say and appreciate each person’s honesty as truth say’s it all! I wonder about many things and look forward to the future like a puzzle to be solved luring me inand exciting me at the same time. I am so glad to hear people who think as I do and who have similar problems leading them to wonder about the direction’s they take ; As I do the same! It’s strange but the older you get the more question’s you have and the realization that the hunt is a big part of the game! The answer can only be found in the end and who know’s how that may be 😉 . I follow the words of those I trust such as Joanie and realize that all of us are human at this point and as such are likely to err in some things; but unless you get out there and try you will never find the truth! I will ask no question’s this time as there are many on the slate to be considered and I am so glad to see others in the bullring, not frightened to ask and put themselves out there to be heard! So many people with similar questions but afraid to ask! I feel I am among kinship here! Love You All ….John 🙂
jldyMemberDavid ; ThankYou for your kind comments and sadness is not a part of my life anymore though I do have my daze’s which I feel is normal. I do not know how to lie; Ive alway’s believed in honesty as a source of truth (not all honesty tell’s the truth) that leads to answer’s that are correct and helpful.
For some people honesty is painful even disruptivebut in the long term a big mistake!
I remember year’s ago hiding my problems from all but those closest to me until I had to come out of the closet when I had to take three month’s of radiation treatments and I learned about honesty and friendship! My hiding was more thru imbaresment and not wanting sympathy so I hope others listen to this and realize that honesty is the solution to all problems. Yes I have learned alot and continue to learn !! I now understand I am here to learn and grow and also to help other’s for which I can feel deep inside. Though at this time in my life things are difficult I understand what it is all about and walk forward with pride!
I have heard before that Gia is leaving and I find this disconserting as what doe’s this mean to the planet? When is this to happen and will she be back? What is to happen in the interum ? Maybe this will cause the human population to drop and to see itself for what it has done and allow the earth to rebuild itself !?
Yet I have very positive feelings about things and feel a future that will change for the good for many! I enjoy to watch people; it is an interesting pass time 🙂 and you can see much in the expression’s of other’s but my favorite pass time is to walk among the tree’s and smell the fresh air and listen to the tree’s talk as the wind blow’s thru them! If more people did this they would find themselve’s in a much more positive mood and their outlooks would change.To my fellow humans the world is a marvelous place, take advatage of it and realize this life you now live come’s only once so dont wait for the next one to make thing’s better; do it now!
Thanks for letting me speak and Thanks for listening!
John 😉jldyMemberWow I’ve been thinking awhle after BigFoot’s poem thru me off centre 😉 . I could never compete with such nor honestly am I a poet but I do appreciate poetry yet I must say I do not understand completely what is being said so I will stay away from it and continue on if I may with David!
I would say that if sex wasnt so important to humans imagine what that energy could be used for. Modern man is wasting that energy to over populate our planet. We are becoming more of a virus on earth then an intelligent being. Beside’s raping the planet we are now overpopulating it to the point of our detriment.
Human kind has become something great yet we have not yet learned to control our own desire’s………..hmmmm I think that is a sign we need help and soon or like a virus we will be destroyed! It seem’s on our own we are unable to control these God given desire’s which were necessary at our begining but are now overpowering the human race.
As a child I shall we say hurt myself and learned early on I could not make children then my brain tumor removed all thoughts and procreation ability. A bit of a bust to begin with but I’ve learned to rechannel that energy to more important things like learning more about …well these things..
The loss was a bit dehumanizing at first but I soon learned to accept it and move on; Now if I was only a really smart person I could of put that energy to good use. But here I am alone but much wiser thru my research! I can only imagine what a genius could do !! Now I say all this with some humility knowing how many people will now know my secret but I feel there is much to be said for what I have stated.
The human race needs help or we will destroy are self thru overpopulation if not by whipeing the earth of it,s beatiful natural resource’s! What do you think of this David? Am I correct or just skipping stone’s on the water?
Love to my Friends and Guide’s and looking forward to meeting soon!!!
John an Earthling 🙂 -
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